My guess is the mid range is nice because of the smaller intake ports and valves of the 6R vs. the FZ6. Same reason for lack of top end rush. That said timing the cams a little more may help. Maybe advance them a little more?Just an update for the ones that are interested.
The MAP is getting close enough for a good base line on the Dyno now. I can tell right away that I might need to move the cams around a tinny bit. As soon as I hit 4K the bike comes alive. The mid range is just amazing! It still pull all the way to 12500... but doesn't have the top end rush that I was expecting. I did time the cams on the conservative side, since the 6R is short of 2K RPM compare to the FZ6. I could move the cams right away, but I want to check how it ends up first. I'm more interested in overall performance than peak HP.
So as of right now if it was the best I could do I will still be very happy with this mod. If you are mechanically up to the task, this is the best HP mod per $ by far! I'm planning the Dyno run Thursday or Friday...
You're right! The smaller intake runner and throttle body is what make the mid range so great. But don't get me wrong, it doesn't feel flat on top... just not as big of an improvement. The engine tune is so different with those cams. As much as I needed to "dump" fuel with the stock cams... here just like you said, lean is mean. More like it suppose to be.My guess is the mid range is nice because of the smaller intake ports and valves of the 6R vs. the FZ6. Same reason for lack of top end rush. That said timing the cams a little more may help. Maybe advance them a little more?
And until you can get on the dyno its hard to know what the correct map is.
If you can stick with the Factory Pro shops as they use a 4 Gas instead of only an O2 sensor. Aim for 4% to 5% CO and you'll be spot on.
Looking forward to the end product Marty.
I'm still running 17/44. Can barely keep the front wheel on the ground as it is... lol That should stay has is for now.Marthy don't forget your gearing. Last I recalled you had your sprockets set for HWY mileage.
I wish! I need a day off during the week!!! No dyno run on Saturdays I really like the way the bike pull... but I won't eyeball numbers. I'll wait for the real ones...Any updates Marty?
I'll ask my buddy if I can borrow is GoPro.Marthy correct me if I am wrong but I believe I came across a you tube video with the new cams of you doing a start up? If so it sounded really really good! Do more please!!!
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You are partially right. To get 100% out of the cams (for peak HP) I need more RPM. But so far my biggest gain has been in the mid range. Bellow 4K the bike feel numb, at 4K the engine pull like a twin and at 8500 it gives another kick all the way to 12500. I'm trying to get day off so I can tune it p on the Dyno. From there I will know exactly where the power/torque curve looks like. I can play around a bit why the cams timing to adjust the power band.I was just thinking out loud (often dangerous) but if the fz6 has a detuned r6 motor and the fz6r has a detuned fz6 motor, is their a way you could disable the rev limiter, and use the full potential of your new cams. From my under standing the bottom end of all 3 are pretty much identical so all 3 rotating assemblies should be able to spin 16k all day with out breaking a sweat. With a reflashed ecu from ecu unleashed you very well might be able to make pretty close to stock fz6 numbers on the dyno, unless what I'm thinking cant be done?
Ah... yes. (forgot that question...) It can be unlock with PCV (password required) but mechanically I'm not sure how much more the valve springs can handle. They already have to manage almost 1mm more lift...Well is there a way to up the limiter?
Totally different cylinder head...Ah ok, we'll in that case I wonder how much a new set of r6 valve springs would cost, or im sure you could find some off something to work on eBay, if you wanted to go that route.
Rev x-tend or something like that. Honestly, not something that can be used if you don't change valve spring and cams... You might be able to get away if you want to spin the engine 13K - 13250 but not much more than that I will think so. Personally, I'll manage to make power under 12500 RPM.Ok, now I'm seriously intrigued! What is this I hear about unlocking something with the PCV that requires a password??? Where is such a password acquired?
Rev x-tend or something like that. Honestly, not something that can be used if you don't change valve spring and cams... You might be able to get away if you want to spin the engine 13K - 13250 but not much more than that I will think so. Personally, I'll manage to make power under 12500 RPM.