MotoGP today (Spoiler Alert!!!!)


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JonKerr

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Indeed it was finally a great GP race. Actually GP was more exciting than Moto2 for once this time. I'm not a Lorenzo fan at all. But damn he earned a TON of respect for what he did. I mean riding with a broken collarbone 24hrs after surgery. :eek: Most people would be in bed recovering from the anestesia and he's out racing a 250bhp bike at 200mph. :bow:

Even though I'm a Yamaha guy, I really want to see Pedrosa win this title. He's so good and has been so close, and just had some crazy bad luck. And he seems like he's pretty down to earth compared to most of the others. I'm also a big fan of Crutchlow. I've read a couple of articles in MCN and couple of other UK mags and he always seems like such a cool guy. And he's KILLING IT on a satellite M1. Other riders have been on "satellite" bikes and done extremely well (Simoncelli, Bradl,) but they were on factory bikes being given to the satellite team. Crutchlow has a true satellite bike with second best equipment.

I am glad to see Rossi back on form. And you can't say he won just because others were out. Lorenzo was the only one off the top of his game. Marquez, Pedrosa, Crutchlow, were all on form. I don't know if he has any championships left in him, but I really think he's got a shot to get to the 123 wins he needs to beat Agostini's record (122) now that he's on a good bike. Losing 2 full years really hurt his chances though.
 
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Detrich

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^ ditto. I think the 2 years at Ducati taught Rossi a bit of humility. Something he wasn't expecting. But, he's a champ and it's never too late for him. But, yah- would like to see Dani take this year. He's definitely long overdue.
 
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I was expecting him to take about 5-6 races to get a good setup and feel again.
I was not a doubter.
The upshot is that it looks like we have 5 aliens on the grid now.
They've got to give Cal his Lorenzo-spec fuel tank now, to fix his early lap fuel load issue, surely.
 
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Bruno

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FastFreddy said:
I was expecting him to take about 5-6 races to get a good setup and feel again.
I was not a doubter.
The upshot is that it looks like we have 5 aliens on the grid now.
They've got to give Cal his Lorenzo-spec fuel tank now, to fix his early lap fuel load issue, surely.
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Do you really believe the Cal early race issue is caused by the fuel tank? I don't... He is a great rider and i think he could even be champion on Tech 3 if he stopped worring about "being on a official team"... But i think he doesn't take off good... In his shoes i wouldn't leave tech 3... For Ducati, no way... On Yamaha, only if Rossi or Lorenzo step out... Maybe Honda, but i think he rides very similar to Pedrosa, i don't think Honda would fire Pedrosa and Hire him...
 
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Detrich

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^ totally agree.

Dovi might be making more $ now wearing red, but he sure ain't gonna be getting on the podium anytime soon. But, if the sole purpose of getting to the podium is to make more $, then it's really f'd up. Because, the means don't justify the ends. It's like u perform well just to earn the $ to ride a crappier bike and then lose again. WTH... lol
 
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Bruno said:
Do you really believe the Cal early race issue is caused by the fuel tank? I don't... He is a great rider and i think he could even be champion on Tech 3 if he stopped worring about "being on a official team"... But i think he doesn't take off good... In his shoes i wouldn't leave tech 3... For Ducati, no way... On Yamaha, only if Rossi or Lorenzo step out... Maybe Honda, but i think he rides very similar to Pedrosa, i don't think Honda would fire Pedrosa and Hire him...
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Wholly implausible, but I would take a factory ride alongside Rossi AND Lorenzo if I was Crutchlow. He's fast. I bet he could give either or both of them an honest run if they all had identical resources. If either of them vacates their seat next season it makes it a complete no-brainier for Yamaha and for Crutchlow.
 
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Detrich

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Yamaha will not vacate Jorge or Vale tho. Vale is still making a comeback. Jorge is reigning world champ.

It would be nice if (a) Monster would pay Cal a decent salary, and (b) Monster would pay to get better support from Yamaha to make their satellite M1's more competitive.

To me, this seems like a better & more sensible option- at least until Suzuki returns in 2015.

Ducati isn't a threat at all. Nor are any of the satellite Honda teams. Monster Yamaha is potentially the contending satellite team to upset the only 2 competitive factory teams in every race. Why not build on that...
 
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HF Shan hit Fit! Pedrosa fractured his collarbone in last nights sessions!

Wait to see whether he races tonite... Things are def spicy this season with Lorenzo doubting his performance due to his collarbone and now Pedrosa!

Go Cal go!!!
 
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JonKerr

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Today was a good race. Too bad Cal couldn't catch Marquez. With JL out until Indy, and Pedrosa back next week, This is going to get interesting for the championship.

Watching Moto2 as I type.
 
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Detrich

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Indeed... Rossi couldn't keep up with Marquez (or Cal) either...

Makes u wonder how the heck a second tier machine can outperform a factory machine. Either the bike wasn't setup right- like Rossi said. Or, Cal really just decided to throw caution to the wind and went all out.

Either way, it's really turning into an interesting season. I guess those 2 wasted years at Ducati really set back Rossi a lot. I'm sure Dovi & Nicky can at least be happy with their fat paychecks... lol

Dani also just can't seem to get a break. :(
 
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With all the different permutations of who's going where, my money is on Nicky heading to WSB to ride for Ducati there, Ben Spies ending up in the new Suzuki team with Randy de Puniet, and Cal on a Factory Ducati. That word "Factory" caries a lot of weight in the paddock. There are guys who'd rather have a "Factory" ride with a lesser team than a satellite ride with a better bike. More money, more prestige, etc... And quite honestly, more of a chance that their factory will finally pull their heads out of their asses and build a fast bike lol. But with the whole production racer option, leased engines, spec ECU's, we're going to be in for some major changes next year. Then you throw the rumors that they're going to possibly be bringing Michelin back asa second tire supplier, talk about shaking up the pecking order.
 
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Detrich

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True. But, to me, it seems like it would be more interesting if satellite teams, like Monster, would pay their riders factory-like salaries and get better factory support. Then the prestige and $ factors would be out of the equation, and MotoGP would be more about racing & rider performance instead of who gets a bigger paycheck. When I watch the points board at the end of the race it's kinda sad. Ducati is 3rd on the Constructor's board. But only because they're the only 3rd factory team. It's certainly not because of Dovi or Nicky. There are satellite teams beating them round after round. lol. Also, the amount of camera time the podium winners get vs everyone else makes a difference too.
 
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VRIIClubby

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Ben Spies on a factory bike? dreaming! Really think there would be no chance of that happening again, he may go back to WSB in lieu of Nicky.
Ducati are a promoting team, they need Nicky (or anotehr US rider) to help keep sales in the US going, Race on Sunday sell on MOnday type of methodolgy.
I feel sorry for the team at Ducati, Dovi is a great rider, top 4 in the current field I would say, Rossi has had his day and im honestly sick of seeing his tired whinging face on my TV. So many words come out of his mouth over the past few years, but no results. Yes, I know, multiple champion blah blah blah.
Dani can catch a break, every season he bloody breaks something on his person! He doesnt have the head to win IMO, the big bikes dont suit him like the little 125's and 250's did.
Marquez is a gun, he and Lorenzo will have some great battles at the ack end of the season and going into next season, hopefully they both stay upright, should be a real spectical.
When is Dani's contract up @ Honda?
Still think Rossi will retire next season, Cal to factory Yamaha, Honda the same unless they can move Pedrosa along (hard with how his manager is tied up with Repsol)
Ducati, well Dovi will be there, they could give Espargaro another crack but on the factory bike, he is a good talent,
2015 is Suzuki? will be DePubicHair (sorry meant DePuniet lol) and someone like Bradl or Bautista could go back, he had a good realtionship with the team.
 
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Fizzer6R

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VRIIClubby said:
Ben Spies on a factory bike? dreaming! Really think there would be no chance of that happening again, he may go back to WSB in lieu of Nicky.
Ducati are a promoting team, they need Nicky (or anotehr US rider) to help keep sales in the US going, Race on Sunday sell on MOnday type of methodolgy.
I feel sorry for the team at Ducati, Dovi is a great rider, top 4 in the current field I would say, Rossi has had his day and im honestly sick of seeing his tired whinging face on my TV. So many words come out of his mouth over the past few years, but no results. Yes, I know, multiple champion blah blah blah.
Dani can catch a break, every season he bloody breaks something on his person! He doesnt have the head to win IMO, the big bikes dont suit him like the little 125's and 250's did.
Marquez is a gun, he and Lorenzo will have some great battles at the ack end of the season and going into next season, hopefully they both stay upright, should be a real spectical.
When is Dani's contract up @ Honda?
Still think Rossi will retire next season, Cal to factory Yamaha, Honda the same unless they can move Pedrosa along (hard with how his manager is tied up with Repsol)
Ducati, well Dovi will be there, they could give Espargaro another crack but on the factory bike, he is a good talent,
2015 is Suzuki? will be DePubicHair (sorry meant DePuniet lol) and someone like Bradl or Bautista could go back, he had a good realtionship with the team.
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apparently not
Nicky Hayden told no factory Ducati ride in 2014
Nicky Hayden told no factory Ducati ride in 2014 - | Motorcycle Sport | MotoGP News | MotoGP Results | MCN
 
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Detrich

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Sadly, Stoner was the only one who could really ride the Ducati. And, he's gone... Hello Ducati, it's the bike- not the riders. x.X
 
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Detrich

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Stoner's testing for HRC again.

Hmm... o_O
 

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Detrich

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^. Yah. He fought so hard to get on factory Yamaha team. Then he had two horrendous years- mostly due to things that were not even his fault. :(

It's kinda like football in some ways. Lotta college players who are good don't necessarily do well in the NFL and burn out pretty fast.

If Ben can't prevent getting more injuries, he's going to burn some bridges- esp when teams are paying high salaries for him to just be sitting out all the time.

Tomorrow's race in Brno is going to be an epic one tho. :)
 
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