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EsrTek

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Been looking at tons of bikes and options, since I need a new one.
At this time the main reason an 6r is not an option is due to ABS, so this having that might just get my money!
However, I don't want to wait around w/o a bike either...never know when this will hit.
I'm also waiting on the Yami new 250!!
 
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EsrTek said:
Been looking at tons of bikes and options, since I need a new one.
At this time the main reason an 6r is not an option is due to ABS, so this having that might just get my money!
However, I don't want to wait around w/o a bike either...never know when this will hit.
I'm also waiting on the Yami new 250!!
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Get the Ninja 650 they have ABS, i wish the FZ6R did too. And really the two are very close in performance. Plus you can get a great deal on a 12 or 13, they wont be dealing on these hondas when they come out. Plus it said they were going to be for europe only at first, someone said the faired model was coming to US but i missed that in the article. So i guess that means the Brits will get a new honda 650 but have the power cut back to 250 level lol.
 
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For a little over $9000 I can get a leftover R6. They're too close on price point to much better bikes. Should've tried to get below $8000.
 
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latony007

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EsrTek said:
Been looking at tons of bikes and options, since I need a new one.
At this time the main reason an 6r is not an option is due to ABS, so this having that might just get my money!
However, I don't want to wait around w/o a bike either...never know when this will hit.
I'm also waiting on the Yami new 250!!
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Hey wait is Yamaha coming out with a ninja 250 competitor? Not that i would ever want one but at least we would be able to say we have a mid sized yamaha instead of the smallest lol

Edit: i just looked it up R25, no headlight, mirrors or passenger seat? i didnt realize you could have a non track bike without a headlight, maybe they just arent done yet. Also indicates not sure if it will go into production. Also says Honda coming out with a 300 soon.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/650/17469/Motorcycle-Article/Entry-level-Yamaha-R25-Concept-First-Look.aspx
 
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Then your back to that laying on the tank issue with the R6 though. Agree the best way to buy a bike is to go after last years model. If you can find a 2012 anything right now you will get a steal on it. Even 13s wont be bad but will better in the summer.
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Yeah, not looking for a r6 either. Just saying price wise the cbr is too close to much better bikes. Ninja 1000 is my likely next bike but no time soon.

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keep in mind that $7,999 (unless I missed it in ad) can easily turn into $1k more when they add fright/set up, doc fee etc. either way, not sure why one would spend so much when you can get a mint low mile used one for less.

if considering a new small 250/300, I'd be tempted for the KTM RC390
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Still starting price on the CBR is $8500. Unless you're looking for an under powered sport bike it would make no sense since there are other options in that price range.I doubt the CBR is $8500 otd. Personally I'd probably buy used.
 
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IMO the only thing that bike offers as a point of difference is the swing arm
everything else is a very similar (not identical but pretty close)
 
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still perplexed why when price comes up people compare sports tourers with SS? It has no zero relevance! If you are honestly looking at the 6R then your not looking for a SS, so the price point of that segment means diddly squat!

As for the price point, no doubt it will be a little more expensive than the 6R, it is after all a BRAND NEW BIKE, its not 5 years old like the 6R, and as far as I can read its not a 12 year old motor in it, so big difference's right there.
power is way up on the 6R aswell - 6R OEM is 68hp.massive! this is 85hp. just a wee bit of a difference there!

styling wise it looks near identical to the 6R to the normal observer. (some 70% of buyers are NOT enthusiasts). So wont tell the difference right up!
Imitation is the best form of flattery they say, so kudos to Yamaha for getting it so right as early as they did.

I like it, ALOT, not sure about the dash though, also looks to have clip-ons and not a handlebar setup, I would have more than likely purchased this over the my 6R had it been available then.

but i'm guessing when it hits Aus it will be limited through the computer being a 649cc to bring it under the 150kw/tonne rule we have. So I may have chosen the yammy as it was a lot easier to derestrict when on your full licence.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 6R and love it even more times a million since I did all the mods, but I love my Hondas and that in full repsol colors with a number 27 on the front without it being a SS would of been a wet dream for me.
 
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leprecaun jon said:
i can't see my self riding anything heavier than what i won right now.... my fz6r is a cow... and hard for me to get out of situations like a flat parking space if i have to back out....
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Woah try some capitalization and lay off the periods.

The CBR650F weighs marginally less than the 6R and it has ABS, so I don't know where you're getting your figures. The wet weight from the Honda website says 461lbs. Ours is 468lbs.
 
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leprecaun jon

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Woah try some capitalization and lay off the periods.

The CBR650F weighs marginally less than the 6R and it has ABS, so I don't know where you're getting your figures. The wet weight from the Honda website says 461lbs. Ours is 468lbs.
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This is where my comment came from, I guess, assuming from what I already read in this thread.


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6R makes about 80 and the cbr makes 85 (both at the crank nor rwhp). Not a big enough difference to justify paying more. CBR is a heavy bike as well with a little less torque and higher rpm for max power. I've cut at least 20 lbs off my bike and added about 5 hp with exhaust. Hell I could have a brand new 2012 fz1 for $7500 right now if I had the money. No way I'd pay that much for a bike that I wouldn't keep.
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I would not call 8lbs marginally less aether, it's quite easy to lose 8lbs on the fz6r. Considering ABS sure, but from what I understand, even without ABS it still doesn't have more torque than the fz
 
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It's really not the weight of the FZ6R that is the problem, it's that the weight is held so high in the frame. I have ridden bikes that are heavier than the FZ6R but are not problematic in maneuvering around.
 
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VRIIClubby said:
still perplexed why when price comes up people compare sports tourers with SS? It has no zero relevance! If you are honestly looking at the 6R then your not looking for a SS, so the price point of that segment means diddly squat!

As for the price point, no doubt it will be a little more expensive than the 6R, it is after all a BRAND NEW BIKE, its not 5 years old like the 6R, and as far as I can read its not a 12 year old motor in it, so big difference's right there.
power is way up on the 6R aswell - 6R OEM is 68hp.massive! this is 85hp. just a wee bit of a difference there!

styling wise it looks near identical to the 6R to the normal observer. (some 70% of buyers are NOT enthusiasts). So wont tell the difference right up!
Imitation is the best form of flattery they say, so kudos to Yamaha for getting it so right as early as they did.

I like it, ALOT, not sure about the dash though, also looks to have clip-ons and not a handlebar setup, I would have more than likely purchased this over the my 6R had it been available then.

but i'm guessing when it hits Aus it will be limited through the computer being a 649cc to bring it under the 150kw/tonne rule we have. So I may have chosen the yammy as it was a lot easier to derestrict when on your full licence.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 6R and love it even more times a million since I did all the mods, but I love my Hondas and that in full repsol colors with a number 27 on the front without it being a SS would of been a wet dream for me.
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You're quoting the 6R's rwhp and the CBR's crank HP, big difference. The 6R is about 80 at the crank against the 85 of the CBR. Everyone always quotes the 6R's RW against the crank HP on other bikes. I do believe Marthy said when he dyno tested his bike that the numbers were higher than claimed.
 
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leprecaun jon said:
This is where my comment came from, I guess, assuming from what I already read in this thread.




I would not call 8lbs marginally less aether, it's quite easy to lose 8lbs on the fz6r. Considering ABS sure, but from what I understand, even without ABS it still doesn't have more torque than the fz
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My bike weighs under 450 now and makes about 75 hp at the wheel. Qhite happy with my bike and as nice as the CBR seems I would not have bought it over the 6R.
 
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My bike weighs under 450 now and makes about 75 hp at the wheel. Qhite happy with my bike and as nice as the CBR seems I would not have bought it over the 6R.
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I need to find some ways to cut down weight out of my bike, I took the tool kit out, that's about it lol
 
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leprecaun jon said:
I need to find some ways to cut down weight out of my bike, I took the tool kit out, that's about it lol
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Almost all the mods I did cut weight. Check out Perdurable's weight loss thread on here. Some are hard if you don't have the money right now (exhaust is huge weight loss, handle bars, battery, flushmounts, etc.). Our exhaust is heavy and replacing it saves about 10 lbs alone.
 

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StephenA

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I feel like most of Honda's products are a bit over priced, but they do make some good bikes. They seem to run forever. I would love to see that non faired model here in the US. Looks very nice:D
 
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