Fizzer6R
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i'm all for automatic transmission, and with low MSRP, whatever puts more people on bikes and on the road is a win win
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Honda Unveils New CTX700N
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Brock Kickass
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I respectfully disagree. Driving in general in North America is too diluted, to the point of being unnecessarily unsafe. Getting a license is too easy and people are relying on their cars to do too much for them, allowing them to become more and more distracted while driving. That's bad enough in a cage, on a motorcycle is a whole other problem. My personal opinion is that, should you be unwilling or unable to learn how to operate a clutch, you do not belong on the roads on a motorcycle. There are people who have proven their riding ability already who could benefit from an automatic bike I'm sure, and excluding them is not my premise. Motorcycling is very dangerous, though, and something not to be casually approached. I think that making a 700cc motorcycle easier for a beginner to handle is counter-productive. But, you know what they say about opinions...
Fizzer6R
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surely respect your opinion, all are welcome. this 700 isn't the usual sportbike config. and only 50hp, of course yes still anyone can get in trouble with it, esp. beginners. i dont worry about what people do with their money/lives, it's theirs, not mine. absolutely riding/driving in high population anywhere in NA is dangerous regardless of what you're on/in. again each of us has to determine what risk you want to take, be it primary transportation or for fun...
You are essentially saying that the motorcycle industry should die.
Reality is, most of us live in more congested environments than our parents, and we are becoming more urban every day. For most people, a manual transmission in either a car or a motorcycle is an unnecessary distraction. And most beginners will do better by learning to deal with the realities of the road, not getting distracted by their shifting. Many won't even bother.
Per the dealers I've talked to in the last day (two of them, I'm finally about to pull a trigger on a 6R), the primary target of the NC700X is people who otherwise would have been put into a maxi-scooter of some sort, but who prefer something that doesn't look or handle like a pregnant Vespa. And they're selling quite well. The people who ride them will mostly ride them in situations where they need to worry about traffic and don't need or care for the hassle of a clutch. Speaking as one who rides a regular motorcycle in LA City traffic, I absolutely see the point. That much stop-and-go and the shifting involved is not much fun. I'm lucky in that going forward I am unlikely to need any motorized transport for my daily work life, so I can buy the motorcycle purely for weekends out of town. Otherwise, I'd be pulled towards something easier to deal with myself. Not because I can't handle a clutch, but because it's one more thing to deal with in a driving environment that already has too much going on.
As to the need for improving driving skill in this country, I agree. But the answer to that has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not people change their own gears or let the vehicle do it for them. Unfortunately, if the insurance threads around here are any indication, a significant number of us would probably not be driving or riding if this country did what's necessary to really make the roads safer.
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My Suzuki GS500 (arguably the best beginner bike out there) had more power than this 700cc. I know a guy who has an NC700 and is bored to tears with it. Already trying to sell it after 2 months.
Used to ride a GS500, they're great.
And yes, more powerful than the NC700, which is redline-limited and designed to run very lean/efficient rather than powerful. As I've said, it's a motorcycle engine for people who would otherwise buy a maxi-scooter. That's how two dealers I've spoken to tend to sell them. Most of the people who buy them will rarely see the highway.
dsc
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Good to have choices
I like what Honda is doing. When I was shopping last summer, options were limited for sporty bikes. Seems like all the manufacturers abandoned the middle weight market (ie Ninja EX 500, GS500). Didnt want a 250 that was too small, or 600 supersport that wasnt commute friendly. My only real options last year were Ninja 650 or FZ6R. Luckily I found a great deal on the Yamaha. Otherwise, I'd probably be out testing the new CBR500R.
I like what Honda is doing. When I was shopping last summer, options were limited for sporty bikes. Seems like all the manufacturers abandoned the middle weight market (ie Ninja EX 500, GS500). Didnt want a 250 that was too small, or 600 supersport that wasnt commute friendly. My only real options last year were Ninja 650 or FZ6R. Luckily I found a great deal on the Yamaha. Otherwise, I'd probably be out testing the new CBR500R.
BKP
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This, in a 850-900cc, manual, w/ABS, mpg > 55... I'd buy it.
danieljardim
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Looks pretty cool. I like it.
This thing is nice!
I sat on it at the MC Show in Indy...COMFORTABLE!
