Found my new dream bike!!! Enter the "baby block"
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dcBear78
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Pushrod engine in motorbikes which usually lead the technology way? Looks like it was hit real hard with the ugly stick and sounds like ass (literally have heard farts sound similar). To me it looks like someone designed this bike in 1982 and now only getting around to making it, but forgot to update the design. I guess some of us do have different opinions.
I'll skip on abs on any bike same thing with all these traction control system out there.
roundhouse
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yeah that's a bit steep. i wouldn't pay that much fro a car.
Buell is actually around and in full production as EBR. Pretty much a hand built race bike.
http://www.erikbuellracing.com/
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http://www.erikbuellracing.com/
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Chevyfazer
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thats cool, i havent been following them much recently and i thought that he was still in the preproduction phase and still in the search of money. Do you know if he has plans to build a more sport touring type bike, or at least something more uprught? I used to be in love with Buell especially the Ulyesses, i looked for one for a long time but the only ones i could find either were double the price of a typical xb12 or had some serious damage.
$39'000 for the buell.It says they are going to ramp up production to over 100 models a year, and introduce 3 new models.That just seems crazy to me for a street bike.I could buy a r1, and a super tenere with enough change left over to ride them both coast to coast.
Selling more models might slowly bring the prices down.But im more excited to see what happens to Ducati over the next few years.When VW bought Lamborghini, the cars became more appealing/usable without losing any of Lamborghini's heritage.Im kind of expecting new Ducati's to start coming full of creature features.They already have electronic suspension/fuel injection.They are just a step away from having touch screen drive modes that change the engine settings with suspension on the fly like a supercar.The seamless shifting transmissions will probably appear in a Duc first to.But thats just my .02, and I don't read quite as much as some of you.
Whats that book called JonK?Im intrigued
Selling more models might slowly bring the prices down.But im more excited to see what happens to Ducati over the next few years.When VW bought Lamborghini, the cars became more appealing/usable without losing any of Lamborghini's heritage.Im kind of expecting new Ducati's to start coming full of creature features.They already have electronic suspension/fuel injection.They are just a step away from having touch screen drive modes that change the engine settings with suspension on the fly like a supercar.The seamless shifting transmissions will probably appear in a Duc first to.But thats just my .02, and I don't read quite as much as some of you.
Whats that book called JonK?Im intrigued
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yellowfz
Man that thing sounds pretty bad, bad as in terrible.
Not for me, I'll stick with the in line 4.
I tune newer model Chevrolet, if one came in sounding like that I would send them away and tell them there was something wrong with the motor.
Not for me, I'll stick with the in line 4.
I tune newer model Chevrolet, if one came in sounding like that I would send them away and tell them there was something wrong with the motor.
Their bikes are race oriented. Not street. They have to make a certain number of street bikes to be legal to race in AMA and from what I've heard, they plan to try and get into WSBK in the future. But most of the people buying the street bikes are putting them on the track right away.
From what I remember, the only reason Buell ever made a more upright streetbike was because Harley wanted one. Erik wanted nothing to do with it. He builds race bikes. Period. Like mentioned above, the streetbikes are to meet the rules. That's not how Harley saw things. They didn't see eye to eye on most things. Hence the split.
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/MotoGP-Technology-2nd-Neil-Spalding/dp/1844258343/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1348355983&sr=1-1&keywords=motogp+technology"]MotoGP Technology 2nd Edition.[/ame]
It's just a little bit behind the times being that the 2nd edition was released in 2010. That's a long time in MotoGP terms as you'll learn when reading the book. It startes out going through each manufacturer that's competed since the MotoGP 4 stroke class started. They talk about everything from how the chassis is fabricated, to engine design, to body work and exhaust systems. (A lot of it is actually information that was kind of derived from pictures, interviews, etc... as a lot of manufacturers are extremely secretive about what they ran, even 8 years ago.) Then they go into general technical discussion about how motorcycles work. The physics can get a little confusing if you've never studied it. (It's been a long time, but I did take AP Physics classes in high school and did well and honestly a lot of it would be over my head if they didn't just explain the basics. They don't get into actual math and equations and the engineering of it all.) I'm not done with it yet. I've been reading it when I'm working night clinics at work so I'm not just sitting reading for hours at a time like I would normally. If you're not a technical science type person, the book will probably be crazy boring. I find it fascinating though. And it really makes you look at the design of bikes, hence why I question the design of this bike so much.
Sorry for the Hijack - back to the previously scheduled discussion about a hot rod sport tourer. :backtotopic:
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Would it help me understand 4vpc vs 5vpc since the introduction of fuel injection?In other words the capabilities of the new wr450f vs yz450f?
Doh! :facepalm: Only on that part. The rest of my opinion still stands. Any motorcycle magazine testing FTW. Doesn't matter which one. Some things are just too good to be true, until proven by exhaustive independent testing.
Chevyfazer
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There have been tons of magazine editors ride it but no formal reports or write ups as of yet (that I'm aware of) they all had nothing but good things to say but that is also in the presence of motus owners, designers and everyone else so their opinions might of been swayed with them there. I can't wait for someone to get their hands on a production bike and get the rundown without any motus guys around so we can get what they really think.
In all honesty i dont trust the write ups of american magazines. They will say anything is good if the manufacturer advertises in their mag. If you want an honest review, wait to see what the brittish mags have to say. Ive seen them flat out call a product a pile of crap and the next page is a full page ad for that exact product lol. They dont care. They report the truth.
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Chevyfazer
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That's why MCN is the only one I actually care to read
danieljardim
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My duc changes engine sets, abs and traction control level on the fly already.
Yea I know that, the 1198 has electronic suspension to.But its still a decade behind some of the knowledge on VW's bookshelves.Wich Ducati has access to now.
I honestly think gps has a job to do on a closed course vehicle.Just imagine being able to tune the suspension for every individual section of the track, and the bike automatically change as it goes around the track...Its close to a reality now.
I really enjoyed the section titled "Lamborghini, a Case Study" in this article.
Audi Buys Ducati for $1.12 Billion, But Why? | Autopia | Wired.com