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Okay Ill put it as simply as I can for you and anyone else who wishes to judge me for my beliefs even though your christian and not supposed to cast judgement.....but even though you already have cast judgement by your statement. Thats one thing most christians fail at, they preach but they dont follow what they preach....well they pick and choose how to follow it. Or they think all will be forgiven because they go to church on sundays. I dont have a problem with it at all actually. Good for you, I went to church for a while too, it was great comrodory. But then when the pastor saw we didnt put money into the donation plate our third sunday there, he pulled me aside and said its "Not really a choice, when you come here you pay for our services and if you cannot do that, we recommend finding a different place to go." I simply said to him "Thank you for showing me your ways :thumbdown:"
Heres the deal david, you believe in a faith in which was cast for thousands of years, which was hand written and pieced together by men who thought the earth was flat, that witches be burned at the stake, maggots came from sins, and if you pissed god off he'd strike you down with blasts of lighting. It came from greedy kings trying to obtain more land and mind you were very violent and sexually deviant people. It also comes from a time in which man had very little controll over the community in which they ruled....so they shaped this book and struck the fear of god into the religeous community and exiled or executed everyone who did not believe in it. Whats that do...forced people to follow. So your telling me kings didnt add in what they thought would help shape how they need to rule people? Next in line...why are there so many forms of religion? Because people CHANGED IT to fit how they wanted to live THEIR lifes. I think you would have to be very naive to disagree with what Im saying as it is pure logic.
Another thing about this....your pastor...he gets a home and all of his living provided for him through the church. Why does my aunts church have a $600,000 home for the pastor to live in? I forgot church was about helping people not living lavish lifestyles. I get it...a pastor is there to help at all times....but IMO those guys are nuts. They study all day every day with the bible...believing that god is speaking to them in certain ways shapes or forms. Then they come in on sunday mornings and tell you all about what god made him envision. Im sorry but I forgot thats a chemical property in your brain that gives you IMAGINATION. But hey if you want to believe in something that for thousands of years was used to controll the masses, and has ensured billions of lives lost due to wars over whos right and who is wrong in religeon...because you know killing someone else in the name of god is right? If I came and killed you because I like Allah and I think the judeo christian beliefs are wrong....Id go to prison. But yet war ensues in the middle east on a daily basis killing thousands of people over a war that has lasted since man has come around. If you disagree....good for you, if you agree with me good for you. Because unlike your judgement which you cast upon me even though as a judeo christian your comiting sin judging me....when you should be "forgiving me"...but you judged so you cant go back on that one...I dont judge you for your beliefs or anyone elses for that matter.
I understand who I am, and I know my place in life and the world. I am not one to tell you or anyone else who is right or wrong in their beliefs. Im a simple human being living my life trying to get ahead and I dont concern myself with such nonsense in life. But beings you decided to call me out....all christian like....I figured Id explain myself and where I come from. On a side note...I believe in fate...not faith. You get through life with willpower and determination...not faith. You can hold faith in one hand and shit in another and what do you have? Still only a hand full of shit.
Well lets see how judeo christian you truly are and Im very excited to see your response. I assume this will begin a flame war so Im going to put on my flame shield
NOW if you all want to get into a tear you appart swearing and anger fest this thread will get shut down faster than you can blink. Were adults here and this is a beautiful community. Keep respectful.
That ain't gonna work. You are the one who put it out there for all to see in this forum. If you can't discuss it here then the comment shouldn't be there. I'm assuming by the tone of the comment that you are an atheist or an agnostic, no? That is your business and you have that right but your comment is a slap in the face to Christians. If I am wrong about what you mean by your crucifix/vampire example then correct me. Otherwise don't sit there and pretend you don't want to talk about religion here. You started it. David
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Okay Ill put it as simply as I can for you and anyone else who wishes to judge me for my beliefs even though your christian and not supposed to cast judgement.....but even though you already have cast judgement by your statement. Thats one thing most christians fail at, they preach but they dont follow what they preach....well they pick and choose how to follow it. Or they think all will be forgiven because they go to church on sundays. I dont have a problem with it at all actually. Good for you, I went to church for a while too, it was great comrodory. But then when the pastor saw we didnt put money into the donation plate our third sunday there, he pulled me aside and said its "Not really a choice, when you come here you pay for our services and if you cannot do that, we recommend finding a different place to go." I simply said to him "Thank you for showing me your ways :thumbdown:"
Heres the deal david, you believe in a faith in which was cast for thousands of years, which was hand written and pieced together by men who thought the earth was flat, that witches be burned at the stake, maggots came from sins, and if you pissed god off he'd strike you down with blasts of lighting. It came from greedy kings trying to obtain more land and mind you were very violent and sexually deviant people. It also comes from a time in which man had very little controll over the community in which they ruled....so they shaped this book and struck the fear of god into the religeous community and exiled or executed everyone who did not believe in it. Whats that do...forced people to follow. So your telling me kings didnt add in what they thought would help shape how they need to rule people? Next in line...why are there so many forms of religion? Because people CHANGED IT to fit how they wanted to live THEIR lifes. I think you would have to be very naive to disagree with what Im saying as it is pure logic.
Another thing about this....your pastor...he gets a home and all of his living provided for him through the church. Why does my aunts church have a $600,000 home for the pastor to live in? I forgot church was about helping people not living lavish lifestyles. I get it...a pastor is there to help at all times....but IMO those guys are nuts. They study all day every day with the bible...believing that god is speaking to them in certain ways shapes or forms. Then they come in on sunday mornings and tell you all about what god made him envision. Im sorry but I forgot thats a chemical property in your brain that gives you IMAGINATION. But hey if you want to believe in something that for thousands of years was used to controll the masses, and has ensured billions of lives lost due to wars over whos right and who is wrong in religeon...because you know killing someone else in the name of god is right? If I came and killed you because I like Allah and I think the judeo christian beliefs are wrong....Id go to prison. But yet war ensues in the middle east on a daily basis killing thousands of people over a war that has lasted since man has come around. If you disagree....good for you, if you agree with me good for you. Because unlike your judgement which you cast upon me even though as a judeo christian your comiting sin judging me....when you should be "forgiving me"...but you judged so you cant go back on that one...I dont judge you for your beliefs or anyone elses for that matter.
I understand who I am, and I know my place in life and the world. I am not one to tell you or anyone else who is right or wrong in their beliefs. Im a simple human being living my life trying to get ahead and I dont concern myself with such nonsense in life. But beings you decided to call me out....all christian like....I figured Id explain myself and where I come from. On a side note...I believe in fate...not faith. You get through life with willpower and determination...not faith. You can hold faith in one hand and shit in another and what do you have? Still only a hand full of shit.
Well lets see how judeo christian you truly are and Im very excited to see your response. I assume this will begin a flame war so Im going to put on my flame shield
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