2013 fz6r

[Chevyfazer]

if they had just built the fz6r off the fz6 frame,motor, and sub frame.... it would have saved them an assload of money in development and they could have still msrp'd for 7500-8000 rather then 7000-7500 and i myself would have payed that for a 420lb FZ6R

I believe Yamaha's thinking behind the fz6r was to make a more beginner friendly bike.

 

[Perdurable]

I believe Yamaha's thinking behind the fz6r was to make a more beginner friendly bike.

Ya so why wouldn’t they make it lighter using the frame and motor they already had?
Light bike = harder to drop and easier to balance at low speeds

 

[Uno979]

Look at the FZ track record for change... Fz1 gen 1 went 6 years as well as the current gen II. It's time to change that one, fz6 underwent the most changes physically and with its name.. Each model went about 6 years. Now the yzf's go 2-4 years before changes. They are the best sellers and built around the ever changing technology in racing. Entry lvl bikes though, as seen with kawi and Honda, have gone twenty plus years with minimal changes.
Don't get your hopes up...

 

[MistahT]

The Ninja 650 has huge popularity as a beginner/intermediate bike, but most people don't even know the FZ6R exists. Still, many motorcycle magazines and websites have VERY favorable reviews of the FZ6R.

I would hope that Yamaha would try to one-up the Ninja 650.

 

[Perdurable]

Look at the FZ track record for change... Fz1 gen 1 went 6 years as well as the current gen II. It's time to change that one, fz6 underwent the most changes physically and with its name.. Each model went about 6 years. Now the yzf's go 2-4 years before changes. They are the best sellers and built around the ever changing technology in racing. Entry lvl bikes though, as seen with kawi and Honda, have gone twenty plus years with minimal changes.
Don't get your hopes up...

True!!! new tech is always nice but adding weight to make a bike cheaper.... yamaha i think that’s a step in the wrong direction they new tech = cheaper lightweight bike i honestly wouldn’t care if they gave the fz6r that old fz6 frame or even an old r6 frame old tech is better than cheep steel tubing haha

 

[Chevyfazer]

Ya so why wouldn’t they make it lighter using the frame and motor they already had?
Light bike = harder to drop and easier to balance at low speeds

It pretty much is the same motor, they just applied the same process to it again that they did going from the 03 r6, to the fz6, Less revs more tq. As far as the frame, I guess they just wanted to save money by not using aluminum but a lighter bike would make a lot more sense.

 

[MiltonDorkenhoff]

It pretty much is the same motor, they just applied the same process to it again that they did going from the 03 r6, to the fz6, Less revs more tq. As far as the frame, I guess they just wanted to save money by not using aluminum but a lighter bike would make a lot more sense.

Same motor as what?

 

[Chevyfazer]

Same motor as what?

Pretty much the same motor as the fz6, it uses lots of the same parts that the fz6, and 03 R6 does

 

[Saxon237]

from what I understood, they are all the same motor (FZ6, FZ6r, R6...), just different levels of tuning/gearing?

 

[Chevyfazer]

Yup all 3 pretty much use the same bottom end but the heads are all a little different, along with the tuning

 

[Perdurable]

from what I understood, they are all the same motor (FZ6, FZ6r, R6...), just different levels of tuning/gearing?

kind of... i was looking at the oem parts for them and they have a a lot of different part numbers but a lot of it has to do with the way it mounts to the aluminum frame vs our steal frame

Same bore/stroke/comp ratio
65.5 x 44.5 mm
12.2:1

03 r6 differnt comp
12.4:1

 

[Chevyfazer]

The r6 has a thinner head gasket whic bumps it up a good little

 

[Perdurable]

The r6 has a thinner head gasket whic bumps it up a good little

ahhh did not know that
coool beans!!!opcorn:

 

[Saxon237]

I was wondering how hard it would be to get the FZ6R engine and retune it into the R6 engine. Not that I would, just idle curiosity.

 

[Perdurable]

I was wondering how hard it would be to get the FZ6R engine and retune it into the R6 engine. Not that I would, just idle curiosity.

probably not to bad just would cost you a lot of money to order a ton of parts from the r6 on some oem site and then building the engine on a bench would be the only way im sure some of the head and mounting pieces may not fit in our steal frame

if they had built our bike in the FZ6 frame... im sure a few of us would have modded in a old r6 engine!!

 

[Chevyfazer]

Eventually I would live to slap some r6 cams and a r6 head gasket on my bike and take it to the dyno to see what she's got. I would imagine it would be very close to 110 whp, and that wouldn't be to far off from a 03 r6 I believe.

 

[Perdurable]

Eventually I would live to slap some r6 cams and a r6 head gasket on my bike and take it to the dyno to see what she's got. I would imagine it would be very close to 110 whp, and that wouldn't be to far off from a 03 r6 I believe.

03 R6
Max Power
123 hp 89.7 kW @ 13000 rpm
Max Torque
68.5 Nm @ 12000 rpm

I think the R6 has a lot more than just cams though i would say the entire head is different bigger valves, ti valves, ti retainers, stiffer springs, maybe 5 angle valves??? maybe not

I talked to Web and If you submit what you know about your cam to Web Cam Inc. - Performance and Racing Camshafts and send your cam in they will weld and grind to re profile it for more power biased on what you want with the motor but.... im not sure if i really wanna do this yet

I love web cams they did my wheelers cam

 

[Chevyfazer]

Ya I don't know if I would ever get the exact numbers but I'd be happy with close. People always say why not just buy a r6, but the everyday live ability of the FZ's with the fun that can be had with them can't be beat!

Saying that and even as much as I love my fz6 with all the blood sweat and tears I've poured into it I'll still probably end up with a FZ1 within a year.

 

[Perdurable]

Ya I don't know if I would ever get the exact numbers but I'd be happy with close. People always say why not just buy a r6, but the everyday live ability of the FZ's with the fun that can be had with them can't be beat!

Saying that and even as much as I love my fz6 with all the blood sweat and tears I've poured into it I'll still probably end up with a FZ1 within a year.

bhahahahahaaa :rof: i was thinking about the same thing

 

[JT]

2013 Yamaha Model introduction 6/6/12 @ 12pm EST
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