Sizing and proper fit are critical... Not being mean here, but did you try on any "Youth" size helmets?? If the "Extra-small" is too loose you might find a full face "Youth" helmet, that is both comfortable and has a proper fit...
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no i did not, none of the dealerships had any.....and the only xx-smalls i can find are shoei's... i measured my head and im right between 20-21 inch.... with that said the xx small should fit the best..... im tempted to order one and see how it fits...
I wear a large in ICON, but a Medium in SHOEI. In my experience SHOEI has a slightly larger "cut" (for lack of a better term) than ICON. (But I still like my SHOEI, so much more than my ICON(s), my head is happy in the SHOEI)
Double check the return policy before you order the helmet, to make sure you can return it, if it doesn't fit or is uncomfortable.
see now thats what scares me.... because i need a xx-small from arai... and they are smaller than a shoei and im afraid shoei doesnt have anything that will fit... however there is a xx-small icon i have found.... i may order from revzilla they have the best return policy... i just wish i could find a xx-small arai...
Go to Cycle Gear and ask them to help you fit a helmet.
As mentioned everyone has a different shaped head, and each helmet maker uses a different last, like shoe makers.
If you're a 21, per the Shoei chart you need a small.
Also consider that the better helmets have different sized cheek pads so you can get the perfect fit.
As mentioned everyone has a different shaped head, and each helmet maker uses a different last, like shoe makers.
If you're a 21, per the Shoei chart you need a small.
Also consider that the better helmets have different sized cheek pads so you can get the perfect fit.
you know i just measured my self....to double check and i got a 22... yet all the smalls fit way to big... and x-small was better but still not exactly perfect... most of the motion was up and down not left and right ...
i think im going to go back to manassas honda tomorrow and check those helmets out again....maybe go to MFI.... just before i make up my mind on any orders...
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You could try the smallest Arai you can find if you're looking for a small helmet.
Or just get the most or more expensive HJC in XXS. I'm sure the pricier HJC's have SNELL rating...
I fall in-between S & XS myself. XS for HJC and AGV fits me best. Scorpions don't fit me well at all... Arai I noticed I wear S, because they are really tight. I've never tried a Shoei b4 so can't comment on that.
Like I said, AGV, Bell, and Scorpion are the highest rated in crash tests.
Or just get the most or more expensive HJC in XXS. I'm sure the pricier HJC's have SNELL rating...
I fall in-between S & XS myself. XS for HJC and AGV fits me best. Scorpions don't fit me well at all... Arai I noticed I wear S, because they are really tight. I've never tried a Shoei b4 so can't comment on that.
Like I said, AGV, Bell, and Scorpion are the highest rated in crash tests.
I would strongly suggest taking the time to call places like cyclegear and revzilla and talking with their people about helmets. I did the same when I was having problems finding the right helmet and they directed me to the Bell RS-1 which turned out to be a perfect fit for my fat head (I had to get an XXL). They will ask you questions about the helmets you have tried on and what was good and bad about them, then they will suggest a few things to you. With their help I nailed my helmet down in 2 orders. I made one order, it didn't work, returned it, got the rs1 and bam, perfect glove like fit.
lwclancers
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One thing I havent seen mentioned is to buy thicker cheekpads. I have done that a few times with my ICONS. Buy the helmet that fits your head, then buy thicker cheekpads...they arent made just as replacements, they are made at different thicknesses to get the proper fit.
Find out what size (usually in mm's) the XS helmet has, and buy thicker ones for that size.
Find out what size (usually in mm's) the XS helmet has, and buy thicker ones for that size.
I mentioned cheek pads earlier myself... lol.
but yeah, you need the crown fit first. If anything when trying helmets on, take the cheek pads out and then try it on, that way you can get a better idea on the crown fit.
ill keep that in mind i may give them a call tomorrow... the icon and the arai's fit me the best so far... im going to go back out and try some other things on and see if i can make up my mind.... the Icon is still the most comfortable thing i have put on my head... some of the HJCs just squeezed my head to death.... the scorpions had a nice fit but were heavy and everything was squished real close to my face.... im kinda liking the new super moto street helmets so i may get one of those....ill try and exhaust the resources i have localy then call revzilla or cyclegear maybe both and ill get back to you guys here.... this forum is pricelessly valuable in information and help.... thank you guys!
im hoping to get one of these three if i can.... if i can get one that fits.. ill try that crown trick then see if the will let me take the cheek pads out of another one just to see how it fits like that.... then make my choice.... but im in love with this lid!
i put them in order from which color i like most lol... but color and looks arent everything... the function of the helmet is what has me sold the most as well as the comfort.
the biggest problems are finding one that fits... if it will fit... and the fact that i dont think my best friend will or can ride with me if i get the high viz.... :-/ thats a long story..
i put them in order from which color i like most lol... but color and looks arent everything... the function of the helmet is what has me sold the most as well as the comfort.
the biggest problems are finding one that fits... if it will fit... and the fact that i dont think my best friend will or can ride with me if i get the high viz.... :-/ thats a long story..
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U re-measured your head and got 22"? What about in cm? 22" should be a Small not XXS...
My noggen measures 21.5" / 54.5cm, which is right in between XS & S... I can wear either size, but i like XS better cuz its tighter.
So if you feel a XS is still too big, then I'm not sure u measured yourself correctly...
Did you watch these helmet fitment videos? After u watch these two u will know how to size your helmet.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui5E04nwxtw&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]The Helmet Center HJC IS-16 Helmet Review - TheHelmetCenter.com - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8v4qzB5HLY&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]How to fit a Motorcycle Helmet - YouTube[/ame]
Key points:
- both your ears must fully slide into the helmet chamber after u push down all the way so the top of your head is touching the inside top of the helmet.
- there should be a 1 to 2 finger distance (gap) between your chin and the helmet. Or it's too small.
- it should be difficult to talk or chew gum without feeling like u r biting or scraping the insides of ur cheeks.
- u should barely be able to insert a pinky above your forehead- ie it should be skin tight.
- u shouldn't be able to pull the helmet off.
- it should be difficult (slightly pinching) to put the helmet on and take it off. This will continue even after the helmet is broken in. (It just pinches less after fully broken in.)
- there should be no spots on your head that hurt (hot spots). Otherwise the helmet is too small.
My noggen measures 21.5" / 54.5cm, which is right in between XS & S... I can wear either size, but i like XS better cuz its tighter.
So if you feel a XS is still too big, then I'm not sure u measured yourself correctly...
Did you watch these helmet fitment videos? After u watch these two u will know how to size your helmet.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui5E04nwxtw&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]The Helmet Center HJC IS-16 Helmet Review - TheHelmetCenter.com - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8v4qzB5HLY&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]How to fit a Motorcycle Helmet - YouTube[/ame]
Key points:
- both your ears must fully slide into the helmet chamber after u push down all the way so the top of your head is touching the inside top of the helmet.
- there should be a 1 to 2 finger distance (gap) between your chin and the helmet. Or it's too small.
- it should be difficult to talk or chew gum without feeling like u r biting or scraping the insides of ur cheeks.
- u should barely be able to insert a pinky above your forehead- ie it should be skin tight.
- u shouldn't be able to pull the helmet off.
- it should be difficult (slightly pinching) to put the helmet on and take it off. This will continue even after the helmet is broken in. (It just pinches less after fully broken in.)
- there should be no spots on your head that hurt (hot spots). Otherwise the helmet is too small.
i watched a revzilla video on how to measure the largest part of your head.... starting between ur eyes about an inch to an inch and a half up....the second time i measured i actually got to use a soft measuring tape... it came to a 22... which is 55.88 cm.... i know its a small... but some how the xsm xxsm were to big... i may have been moving the helmet up and down at the wrong points so im going back tomorrow to redo.... what i did today...in hopes that i can get a x-small haha...thanks for the vids ill check them out in a sec...
edit: ima watch the videos again tomorrow before i leave so i dont forget anything...hopefully i get this figured out..
EDIT2:----^ i lied i took notes
haha! i was going to attach the file but its to big :-/
edit: ima watch the videos again tomorrow before i leave so i dont forget anything...hopefully i get this figured out..
EDIT2:----^ i lied i took notes
haha! i was going to attach the file but its to big :-/
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IMO, comparing Shoei to Icon is similar to comparing Honda to Hyosung...
We are talking about the helmets available off the shelf for regular folks. I do not think Ben Spies is shopping at the mororcycle superstore using 20% discount...
Hyosungs are funner to ride! LOL!!!! Go ride a gv650, and get one opened up with pipes, intake and tune and they are actually funner than sh!t !!!!!!!!!!!
Those helmets are all dependant on the persons head, and taste.