Got taken out by a car (NSFW)

[MiltonDorkenhoff]

There is no excuse for the cager to not have used his rear view mirror.

Bullshit. Mirrors don't show jack. The only way to know what is around you is to actually turn your head and look. You want to move to the left, turn your head and look. You want to move to the right, turn your head to the right. If you want to know what's behind you, turn your body and look behind you.

A rear view mirror shows you what is BEHIND you, not what is next to you. Side view mirrors (I was driving before cars had TWO) show you some of what is on the side of your car, not everything. If you want to know everything, turn your head and look. And even then, as your story says, you sometimes miss someone, but hopefully not.

 

[JimmyC]

GLAD YOUR OK...too bad about the bike!

 

[Deleted member 9794]

So after you're all healed up and riding again do you think you'll continue to lane split?

 

[r0ar]

Ummm.... I would think "A car hit me while riding my motorcycle" is about as manly as it gets.

Yeah , I would have to agree. No story can get more Manly then that .


Glad you came out without anything to serious though man.

 

[KeysRider3]

That's gonna be a killer scar, and I think the story you have is the story you should tell! Glad you're okay, and hope your bike can be restored without too much grief. Thanks for sharing your adventure!

 

[BrueThru]

BATTLE!

Glad you lived to fight another day brother. :thumbup:

 

[FZ6RCA]

WOW !! Glad your Ok and also Chicks Dig Battle Scars

 

[b_who]

Thanks for all the well wishes guys. Truly awesome forum :thumbup::wav:
and thanks spunky for that bit of information, helped calm my nerves a little as this is a whole new world for me with insurance and what not.

So after you're all healed up and riding again do you think you'll continue to lane split?

To be honest, I probably will :squid: i thought i was pretty defense when i commute but I'm gonna have to step my game up big time god willing everything pans out.

 

[Fizzer6R]

bummer but the ol saying, it could've been A LOT worse.

PS: chics dig scars
PSS: chics dig exaggerated stories about how you got a scar

 

[buzzbomb]

I previously posted my sorrow for your hurt, my cheerfulness that it wasn't worse, and my hopes for your well being. All are true. To the very bottom of my heart.

I so often play devil's advocate. I'm going to do it again, here. Lane splitting just seems kind of stupid. Nothing against you, personally. Seriously. There was a time in my life, I would have done it. But knowing what I do now? It just seems insane.

Just because we can do something, doesn't mean we should. Honestly, lane splitting is nuts. There are so many ways that it can go wrong that it boggles the mind.

I've driven vehicles all over the world. Literally. Don't tell me about traffic. I've been in traffic that was so stuck, there were vendors on the side of the road selling snacks. (No lie.)

I still can't comprehend the need to lane split, unless it's just for the rush. Or just because you can. I know you're not the only one who does it. Not even on this forum. But, DAMN. Seems to me it's just askin' for a hurtin'.

 

[madmike]

Glad to see you had leathers even though it didnt seem to help much in this rare instance.

I beg to differ. Imagine how bad that wound would have been without the leathers!!!! Might be talking severed tendons, arteries, who knows?

Dude that looks painful!!!!!! Glad you're alive mang.

 

[MiltonDorkenhoff]

I still can't comprehend the need to lane split, unless it's just for the rush. Or just because you can. I know you're not the only one who does it. Not even on this forum. But, DAMN. Seems to me it's just askin' for a hurtin'.

OP was heading (I think) to the front of a traffic light. I do that too. Mostly when everyone else is nearly stopped though. I do it because:

1. The chances of being rearended are much smaller when there are a whole bunch of already stopped cars behind you
2. I can leave when the light turns green (after all of the shits who blow their red light have gone) rather than waiting for everyone to notice that the light has changed, put down their coffee/burger/cellphone and move.
3. I don't have to breath everyone else's exhaust

A lot of times other drivers are, for lack of a better word, supportive. They move to the other sides of their lanes as they see me come through (I do the same thing when I'm in my car if I see a bike behind me somewhere). Some people are oblivious (like the guy who OP met). Other people actively get in the way, like a woman the other day in a brown/gold minivan. She didn't try to hit me, she just made sure there was no room for me to get through.

 

[Spunky99]

Based upon your summation of the dangers of lane splitting, I suggest you sell your motorcycle.
90% of cagers say that riding a motorcycle is "stupid" and "insane".
So based on your logic you are both stupid and insane to even ride a motorcycle.

I'd also suggest not to swim in the ocean or drive a car over 55 mph or walk across a street as that is considered stupid and insane by some people as well.

Riding a motorcycle is VERY dangerous. I think we all can agree on that.

As long as we know the risks and take steps to minimize the danger we can remove some of the danger. Anyone who has never lane split before may think it is extremely dangerous and you are entitled to your opinion although the opinion is based on nothing more than ignorance and lack of personal experience. To those that live where lane splitting is legal and do it, it becomes very normal and natural and is in fact no more dangerous than any other type of riding. It is safest when the cars are stopped as you only have to watch out for car mirrors or someone intentionally trying to squish you. Most drivers don't assault motorcyclists intentionally tho.

I previously posted my sorrow for your hurt, my cheerfulness that it wasn't worse, and my hopes for your well being. All are true. To the very bottom of my heart.

I so often play devil's advocate. I'm going to do it again, here. Lane splitting just seems kind of stupid. Nothing against you, personally. Seriously. There was a time in my life, I would have done it. But knowing what I do now? It just seems insane.

Just because we can do something, doesn't mean we should. Honestly, lane splitting is nuts. There are so many ways that it can go wrong that it boggles the mind.

I've driven vehicles all over the world. Literally. Don't tell me about traffic. I've been in traffic that was so stuck, there were vendors on the side of the road selling snacks. (No lie.)

I still can't comprehend the need to lane split, unless it's just for the rush. Or just because you can. I know you're not the only one who does it. Not even on this forum. But, DAMN. Seems to me it's just askin' for a hurtin'.

 

[dart1963]

how about we start a lane splitting thread to educate instead of taking over B's thread...
:admin:

http://www.600cc.org/forum/search.php?searchid=292324

 

[DragonBlu]

I hope you heal fast. As for lane splitting,not legal in Oregon and I don't think I would roll the dice, although I have seen it done many times in Beaverton here. The thing I would worry about is some logger opening his door to spit out his chew or dump out his cold coffee. that goes on a lot here also.

 

[buzzbomb]

Based upon your summation of the dangers of lane splitting, I suggest you sell your motorcycle.
90% of cagers say that riding a motorcycle is "stupid" and "insane".
So based on your logic you are both stupid and insane to even ride a motorcycle.

Yep. Probably.

 

[Deleted member 9794]

I beg to differ. Imagine how bad that wound would have been without the leathers!!!!......

Yo, B, after really looking at it, it's been bothering me. I wonder if a textile jacket (NOT MESH) would've held up better:

That leather doesn't look thick, although that could just be me. What model AGV jacket was that? Was it a thinner leather for warm weather?

I know leather is more resistant to abrasion but does anybody know about puncture resistance between the two?

 

[b_who]

Yo, B, after really looking at it, it's been bothering me. I wonder if a textile jacket (NOT MESH) would've held up better:

That leather doesn't look thick, although that could just be me. What model AGV jacket was that? Was it a thinner leather for warm weather?

I know leather is more resistant to abrasion but does anybody know about puncture resistance between the two?

the typical leather jacket is 1.2 to 1.4 mm thick. i have a mesh jacket that i used before my leather and I'll never go back. I've personally seen mesh in a low side and see it melted into the guys arm and etc. . i doubt the mesh has better tear resistance, the whole thing i weaved together so I can't really see it being tear resistant at all.

also the leather WAS thicker expect after the crash i slid on my upper back and arms 15 feet and ive also low sided at about 40 before that which didnt help.
i think what cut me was the right side mirror as there were huge sharp pieces on the rode. an glass when broken can be sharp as a razor blade. I'm confident if i didn't have the leather jacket my wound would of bin deeper and done serious damage to tendons and ligiments and lead to not being able to use my left hand. My ER doctor said the cut was "INCREDIBLY clean like a knife wound".
hope this helps

 

[Sander Koop]

I previously posted my sorrow for your hurt, my cheerfulness that it wasn't worse, and my hopes for your well being. All are true. To the very bottom of my heart.

I so often play devil's advocate. I'm going to do it again, here. Lane splitting just seems kind of stupid. Nothing against you, personally. Seriously. There was a time in my life, I would have done it. But knowing what I do now? It just seems insane.

Just because we can do something, doesn't mean we should. Honestly, lane splitting is nuts. There are so many ways that it can go wrong that it boggles the mind.

I've driven vehicles all over the world. Literally. Don't tell me about traffic. I've been in traffic that was so stuck, there were vendors on the side of the road selling snacks. (No lie.)

I still can't comprehend the need to lane split, unless it's just for the rush. Or just because you can. I know you're not the only one who does it. Not even on this forum. But, DAMN. Seems to me it's just askin' for a hurtin'.

Here in the UK it is legal; and I do it every day.

I've put 8000 miles on my XJ6 since I bought it last August, mainly riding in city traffic.

And yes, it is a risk - but isn't it also one of the features of riding a bike that makes it better than driving a cage?

I don't get stuck in traffic. One of the best things about riding a motorcycle, IMO.

 

[buzzbomb]

Here in the UK it is legal; and I do it every day.

I've put 8000 miles on my XJ6 since I bought it last August, mainly riding in city traffic.

And yes, it is a risk - but isn't it also one of the features of riding a bike that makes it better than driving a cage?

I don't get stuck in traffic. One of the best things about riding a motorcycle, IMO.

Sander, I really didn't mean to hijack this thread. I have strong opinions and posted mine. I used words I shouldn't have, namely stupid and insane. My opinion stands. But I have to agree with some previous posters: Any further discussion belongs in it's own thread. I'm not going to start it. I've made my opinion pretty clear, I think.

Please, everyone: If you've a reason to opine upon my opinionated post, please start another thread. I won't start it, but I'll be glad to chime in.