2013 harley Davidson Fatbob...Why?

[CrazyCawi]

I don't think you will get over the ss bug. It will creep up in u and u will buy another one.

I never said I wouldn't, I just chose not to want to give them my business right now. The harley is a different style of riding for sure, and whats wrong with wanting to experience other styles? I have the 250 that can outcarve almost all of my friends on 600's....they blow me away in the straights, but I melt em in the corners. I still intend to own one of the italian bikes within the next two years.

Anthony, I'm going to just ignore your condescension okay? Thanks.

 

[tkrechel]

Cc ride what makes ya happy man! As long as you're riding that's all that matters

 

[Sage]

And just wondering, i was just giving you shit since I love Triumph, any reason you didn't gravitate towards them since there is a dealer just down the interstate from you?

 

[yellowfz]

I want to comment so badly but CC is friends with the MODs and I might get banned.

 

[CrazyCawi]

And just wondering, i was just giving you shit since I love Triumph, any reason you didn't gravitate towards them since there is a dealer just down the interstate from you?

I love triumph but I'm not a fan of the stripples headlamps. If they change that look, I'd be all over one

 

[CrazyCawi]

Well the guy that's selling harleys rides an r1. I'm not trying to knock the buy, but an r1 is a legit beast. You didn't consider the thousand japs at all? Btw I wouldn't recommend an r1 as a stunt bike. But it totally blows my mind at the list you had of the top bikes you wanted, and how a harley came close to it. The style of riding and just in general the hobby becomes different. I don't think you will get over the ss bug. It will creep up in u and u will buy another one.

and correction...He has an r1 and a harley.....

I have a 250r which I plan to turn into a track demon, and I have my HD for Sunday cruises.

 

[danieljardim]

and correction...He has an r1 and a harley.....

I have a 250r which I plan to turn into a track demon, and I have my HD for Sunday cruises.

CC my friend. Make the Diavel your next bike. You get a track/street/cruiser/fast/italian bike. Beautiful.. (and cheap insurance) Again, loved your bike, not a big fan of the dual headlight but everything else is sweet.

 

[MichaelInVenice]

Sounds like you've run into the same attitude I've gotten from most of the "high end" bike (and car) dealers around here. Once you're into the MVs, the higher end Ducatis and some of the other "exotics" the dealers take a very different attitude. The local MV, Moto-Guzzi, Ducati guy is pretty clear that there's no real negotiating. He isn't rude, but if you want an MV or Moto-Guzzi, he's the only one around and there are enough people walking in with cash that he can do fine that way. (He's told me straight out that his money is made on guys who have money to spend, because guys who want to deal don't ever come back for the brand-name gear, add-ons, tune-up days, etc.) At those levels they're selling status symbol.

I find the same to be generally true if you go to certain car brands. The target customer is the guy who wants to talk about how much he spent, not what a great deal he got.

They make great bikes, but the sad truth is that they mostly do not sell them to great riders.

 

[Marthy]

Sounds like you've run into the same attitude I've gotten from most of the "high end" bike (and car) dealers around here. Once you're into the MVs, the higher end Ducatis and some of the other "exotics" the dealers take a very different attitude. The local MV, Moto-Guzzi, Ducati guy is pretty clear that there's no real negotiating. He isn't rude, but if you want an MV or Moto-Guzzi, he's the only one around and there are enough people walking in with cash that he can do fine that way. (He's told me straight out that his money is made on guys who have money to spend, because guys who want to deal don't ever come back for the brand-name gear, add-ons, tune-up days, etc.) At those levels they're selling status symbol.

I find the same to be generally true if you go to certain car brands. The target customer is the guy who wants to talk about how much he spent, not what a great deal he got.

They make great bikes, but the sad truth is that they mostly do not sell them to great riders.

If you walk into one of those stealership and you ask how much it cost... thats because you can't afford it!



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[MichaelInVenice]

If you walk into one of those stealership and you ask how much it cost... thats because you can't afford it!

Exactly the point, and they know it!

There's one around here that sells Duc as well as Kawi and Yamaha. Mostly Monsters, but they keep a few of the others on display and they can get whatever you want if you'll pay for it. The Duc section is pretty much seperate from the rest of the dealership, different sales staff, and pretty much different ways of doing everything. They'll take your Kawi in trade for a Duc, but the offers are going to be wildly different and the negotiating room on the price will be very different. Look at that Ducati section of the dealership and you'll see it's laid out wildly different from the rest. No small offices for sales managers, no space for private negotiating, upsells, etc. Just a big open space and one desk for them to write up the paperwork. The expectation is that all that other discussion just isn't going to happen. You're going to tell the salesperson which bike you like, he's going to "suggest" a bunch of upgrades you've "got to have" and maybe some branded clothes, gear, etc. You will probably say "yes" to most of those too. Then he'll write it up and you'll hand him a check. And you'll brag to your friends about how expensive a bike you just got.

The local BMW dealer is not all that different, though I must say they do know their product and while they aren't prone to negotiating or taking non-BMW bikes in trade, they are very upfront and honest and don't rape you with stupid fees.

It's not "fair," but it is what it is and that's pretty typical.

 

[Brock Kickass]

Well, I can't resist an "assless chaps" joke, so I'll get it out if the way right away and ask if you require a T for tall fit or just an arrrrrrrr for regular. Get it? Arrrrrrr, like a pirate?

Seriously, though, enjoy the ride. Different bikes are different experiences. Lots of people take issue with Harleys, myself included, but the issue isn't the bike. Well, it sort of is, in that I have next to zero interest in riding one, but to each his own. Mainly, though, I bag on Harleys because if the people who "own" them instead of ride them. If you're riding it for the ride, more power to you. If you own one so that you look like a biker, you're a poser.

Now, Josh, I know you have this bike to ride it, not stand beside it. Enjoy it for what it is, and don't give up on the Duc or MV. The snobby dealers are part of the experience, just like the pirates are part of the Harley deal. The Brutale and Streetfighter are amazing, though. Suck it up and deal with the d-bags selling them for a chance to have one. You won't regret it.

 

[crobih]

I never said I wouldn't, I just chose not to want to give them my business right now. The harley is a different style of riding for sure, and whats wrong with wanting to experience other styles? I have the 250 that can outcarve almost all of my friends on 600's....they blow me away in the straights, but I melt em in the corners. I still intend to own one of the italian bikes within the next two years.

Anthony, I'm going to just ignore your condescension okay? Thanks.

I totaly understand the arrogance of certain dealerships, I drove 3 hours to get my r1 because the salesman was knowledgeable over the phone and was totally honest. I promised to give him a call when I was ready to buy, but instead I just showed up unannounced on a saturday and walked out with my bike. I had plenty of dealers around seattle. At least 4 different ones I looked at and just their arrogant altitude made me walk away.

 

[BKP]

CC my friend. Make the Diavel your next bike. You get a track/street/cruiser/fast/italian bike. Beautiful.. (and cheap insurance) Again, loved your bike, not a big fan of the dual headlight but everything else is sweet.

Agreed... the 103 is a beauty... really is... Have to go with what feels right for you (on many levels), regardless of where you're coming from...

But, that Diavel (Strada) is the mistress for me, with all the assets for both cruising and twisting... I'll get there one of these days...

 

[Harley Dan]

Welcome to the world of Harley... I rode Katanas, Hurricanes and KZ's when I was younger and ride a Harley Streetglide now. Even on the 96CU I still love the torque and smooth power that comes with the Harley... Its impossible to explain the Harley respect thing that you spoke of... people deny it, they try and minimize it but until you ride one, you wouldn't understand...

My wife's been riding an '81 KZ440 for the past two years. It was her first cycle. I tried to convince her to buy a Harley but considering I'm here, you can guess what she bought.

She loves the look of the sport bike so she bought a '09 FZ6R. It has 2000 miles on it with a full two brothers exhaust, juice box, rear fender delete, turn signal delete - front and rear and cut frame sliders. She picked it up this morning and we rode a couple hundred miles. Obviously its not my first choice but it was hers and it fits her well. She looks good on it and really loves the bike. I look forward to hanging out with you guys and gals and learning about her new hot rod.

 

[06330i]

Congrats on the new bike. I could never switch from the smooth idle of a inline four to that obnoxious vibration of a v-twin, not to mention the loss of any decent gas mileage, but to each their own. Keep the rubber side down.

 

[pincushion79]

Nice harley ya got there. I like the harleys, as my dad and brother both have one. My brother a heritage softtail and my dad has a fatboy. But I decided to go the Star route and got the 113ci Stratoliner Deluxe. My family tries to gimme crap about it, but then I have to bust out that my motor is bigger...

 

[Harley Dan]

Congrats on the new bike. I could never switch from the smooth idle of a inline four to that obnoxious vibration of a v-twin, not to mention the loss of any decent gas mileage, but to each their own. Keep the rubber side down.

A fellow Coastie... I was an ET3 stationed at Lampedusa Italy in 1988... That's the thing I love about my Harley... it has that nostalgic vibration at idle but once you're over 1500 RPM's it nice and smooth... Dyna's and Soft tails have rubber engine mounts to eliminate that vibration... as for gas mileage, I average 40-45 a fill up so I'm not sure what you've heard...

 

[Nastybutler]

Dyna's and Soft tails have rubber engine mounts to try to hide that vibration...

Fixed that for you.

 

[Harley Dan]

Fixed that for you.

LOL! I stand corrected.

 

[Rabbitman109]

Definitely seems like a strange jump. Hope you remain happy on the Harley. There is always other bikes.