efforex
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In Need of New Tires
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Where do you live in southern cali ?
popeye
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06330i
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Michelin pilot power. nuff said. I will NEVER put a set of bridgestones on my bike again. The difference between these and the stocks is like night and day. it feels like a different bike.
geekmaster
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Looks like Michelin tests their tires with Yamaha motorcycles. At least in the wet braking test video on this page, it looks like they use an FZ1.
Michelin Motorcycle Tires
Michelin Motorcycle Tires
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No doubt, they are sticky. I put nearly 9k miles on my bike in the six months I've owned it. I ride a LOT. As much as I'd love to have a tire that sticky, I just can't see them lasting me more than a few months.
FastFreddy
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I put a Michelin Road 2 on the back, and it seems grippy enough for the FZ6R.
The profile and flex seems good too.
They are supposed to last awhile, but I can't confirm yet.
They are a better feeling than the Angel/Demon ST according to those that have tried both.
The profile and flex seems good too.
They are supposed to last awhile, but I can't confirm yet.
They are a better feeling than the Angel/Demon ST according to those that have tried both.
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Hello friends,
It is important to check your tires at least once a month to determine if they are safe to drive on, or in need of service or replacement. Worn-down tires are not only unsafe, they are against the law! The minimum legal tire-tread depth is 2/32 inch. In wet driving conditions, 4/32 inch or less tread depth means there is a high risk of significant loss of wet traction. This means your vehicle is more likely to slide or hydroplane on wet roads, putting the safety of you and your passengers at risk.
Best Regards,
Anthony Martello
http://www.xkglow.com/
Well, thanks. My gosh, it never occurred to me that bald tires might not be good. You are such a well of wisdom, I'll be sure to check out your website.
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So. The tires are bought. Keep in mind, my research is obviously skewed towards myself and how and when I ride.
I ride in all weather. If it's not raining when I'm leaving, then I'm riding. The fact that it will be raining when I come home is accepted. I ride mostly highway, to commute or get to my twisties. However, when I get to my twisties, I *might* get stupid, and need all the grip I can get.
Another however, I just put over 10k miles on my stock bridgestones. In six months. I bought the bike used, but over 8k of those miles are mine. I need sticky, I need all weather, and I need tread life.
After LOTS of research, taking into account all the suggestions in this thread, my choices came down in this order:
1. Michelin Road Pilot 3
2. Michelin Road Pilot 2
3. Bridgestone 023
4. Shinko 005 Advance.
I liked my Bridgestone 021s.Over ten thousand miles on them. At this point the rear was so squared off, the bike would nearly balance on it's own, and the front was so scalloped I could put it with some noodles and serve it for dinner. Still, More than 10K miles, and they served well in the twisties.
They've been replaced by the 023s which were a serious contender.
The technology and the reviews I read on the Michelin's are simply undeniable. I wanted me some. My bonus was less than expected, on a piss-poor paycheck, with bills due, to boot. I simply could not afford the Bridgestones or the Michelins.
I was shopping around for installation costs, and found a local shop that charged 1/2 what my local Yamy dealer charged for installation. This shop had some Shinko's in stock.
So I went with it. Ride the bike in, front and rear tires installed for $302. Shinko Advance 005. They screwed up. The front is supposed to be 120/70. I got 120/60.
After some argument, the mechanic basically said "Try it, you'll like it." OK. I have.
Damn. My sweet little girl is so nimble, I've got to work hard not to change lanes when doing a head-check.
I took a random road (with way too much speed) that had a decreasing radius turn, without a sign. I went so wide that I was in the opposite lane, at the edge of the road, and still had too much speed. Way leaned over, I trail-braked and the bike stuck the corner and I lived.
I rode for a while after that, scared out of my wits. Still.... It did so well... So after a break I went after a local road that I know. One 20mph, 90-degree turn to the right and down the road, another 10mph, 90-degree turn the left.
Stuck it. All leaned over and faster than I care to say. Then I turned around and did it again. Then I turned around and did it a third time.
I liked the stock tires. They could not have stuck those turns the way I did it with the Shinkos. No. Way. Period. It's a local road. I've run it enough times to know.
I'm making no real judgement until I get back up to the twisties in Rockingham. Hopefully on Sunday. Any opinion on the longevity of the tire will of course come with miles.
In the meantime, I've got to admit that I'm impressed.
I ride in all weather. If it's not raining when I'm leaving, then I'm riding. The fact that it will be raining when I come home is accepted. I ride mostly highway, to commute or get to my twisties. However, when I get to my twisties, I *might* get stupid, and need all the grip I can get.
Another however, I just put over 10k miles on my stock bridgestones. In six months. I bought the bike used, but over 8k of those miles are mine. I need sticky, I need all weather, and I need tread life.
After LOTS of research, taking into account all the suggestions in this thread, my choices came down in this order:
1. Michelin Road Pilot 3
2. Michelin Road Pilot 2
3. Bridgestone 023
4. Shinko 005 Advance.
I liked my Bridgestone 021s.Over ten thousand miles on them. At this point the rear was so squared off, the bike would nearly balance on it's own, and the front was so scalloped I could put it with some noodles and serve it for dinner. Still, More than 10K miles, and they served well in the twisties.
They've been replaced by the 023s which were a serious contender.
The technology and the reviews I read on the Michelin's are simply undeniable. I wanted me some. My bonus was less than expected, on a piss-poor paycheck, with bills due, to boot. I simply could not afford the Bridgestones or the Michelins.
I was shopping around for installation costs, and found a local shop that charged 1/2 what my local Yamy dealer charged for installation. This shop had some Shinko's in stock.
So I went with it. Ride the bike in, front and rear tires installed for $302. Shinko Advance 005. They screwed up. The front is supposed to be 120/70. I got 120/60.
After some argument, the mechanic basically said "Try it, you'll like it." OK. I have.
Damn. My sweet little girl is so nimble, I've got to work hard not to change lanes when doing a head-check.
I took a random road (with way too much speed) that had a decreasing radius turn, without a sign. I went so wide that I was in the opposite lane, at the edge of the road, and still had too much speed. Way leaned over, I trail-braked and the bike stuck the corner and I lived.
I rode for a while after that, scared out of my wits. Still.... It did so well... So after a break I went after a local road that I know. One 20mph, 90-degree turn to the right and down the road, another 10mph, 90-degree turn the left.
Stuck it. All leaned over and faster than I care to say. Then I turned around and did it again. Then I turned around and did it a third time.
I liked the stock tires. They could not have stuck those turns the way I did it with the Shinkos. No. Way. Period. It's a local road. I've run it enough times to know.
I'm making no real judgement until I get back up to the twisties in Rockingham. Hopefully on Sunday. Any opinion on the longevity of the tire will of course come with miles.
In the meantime, I've got to admit that I'm impressed.
Chevyfazer
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I will be real interested in seeing what kind of mileage you get and how you like them as time progresses. Im on my 3rd set of 009's and love em plus I ride pretty much the same as you it sounds, over 25k a year mainly commuting rain or shine and still like to get crazy on the weekends. I've read mixed reviews about the 005 that's why I've never ran a set, some say the 009 is stickier and some say the 005 is but both tires get great wet traction reviews as well as longevity. The tires I have on now should wear out about the same time and I'm not sure yet what I'll go with next, I'm pretty sure it's not going to be a 009 though just because I want to check out some other tires now that I know the bike real well. The z8's, 005's, and maybe the angel are what I'm considering the most as of now.
The only thing that I don't like about the 009's are the feedback they give. They have a pretty stiff carcass and don't offer a lot of "feel" of what the tire is doing and if they are cold the rear can and has broken away with no warning, I've also read the same about the 005's so that would be something else I would be interested in as you put some more miles on em.
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They've definitely got less feedback than my stock Bridgestones had. I'm not counting that as a minus, yet. Honestly there's feedback, and then there's another level. For me, what I can do with that difference at speed is pretty minimal. At the moment, if anything I'm appreciating the way the Shinkos smooths things out.
It's still warm here. I haven't run the tire when it was truly cold. Winter is coming, though. I have noticed that in a hard stop, the rear will screech a lot sooner than my Bridgestones did.
I sincerely hope that's not indicative of straight-line hardness, which will get worse when the temperature drops. Once again though, time will tell. If it's a question of a "cold" tire, meaning one is just taking off for the day, and the tires haven't warmed to operating temp? Heck, they all slip.
Chevyfazer
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Yeah any "cold" tire will slip but with the 009's the thin that bothers me is that they don't give any warning before they do. The diablo's and bstone 023's I have had would at least "push" and sometimes even make some noise before letting go. What I mean by "push" is feeling like the rear end is being pushed into a slide with out really sliding, kind of like understeer with the front how you can feel it push out just a bit but not totally loose it. Where as the 009's just say F-you I'm gone! It's only happened to me twice, both times was completely my fault for pushing that hard on a cold tire so I'm not exactly complaining about it just wishing they would give me some more feedback. But then again they are not supposed to be a "track" type tire so maybe I'm asking for too much lol
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It's Sunday. I didn't get to ride my twisties. I'm down with a head cold of all things. I spent the entire day in bed.
Can't run my twisties when I'm not at top form. That's just asking for a hurting. My next day off is Thursday. We'll have to see how I'm feeling.
Meanwhile, the back and forth to work went well, but that's not a test of the tires. I apologize to anyone who is reading this thread, thinking about new tires, but I'm afraid my "Twisty Review" will have to wait.
If you think it sucks for you, have some compassion. I SO wanted to run the twisties today, on my new tires. It's difficult for me to put into words how disappointed I am, that I wasn't able to.
Still, it's my ass and my bike. If I'm not at 100%, I'm not running that road. Next day off, maybe.
Can't run my twisties when I'm not at top form. That's just asking for a hurting. My next day off is Thursday. We'll have to see how I'm feeling.
Meanwhile, the back and forth to work went well, but that's not a test of the tires. I apologize to anyone who is reading this thread, thinking about new tires, but I'm afraid my "Twisty Review" will have to wait.
If you think it sucks for you, have some compassion. I SO wanted to run the twisties today, on my new tires. It's difficult for me to put into words how disappointed I am, that I wasn't able to.
Still, it's my ass and my bike. If I'm not at 100%, I'm not running that road. Next day off, maybe.
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OK. I got to my twisties today. I'm not disappointed. Those cheap-ass tires performed admirably.
Where my stock Bridgestones would slide (kind of felt like I was in a car, trying to drift the corner) the Shinkos stuttered. They didn't slide, they just "stuttered." That's the best I can describe it.
I had a sharp right corner, and there was gravel. (I hate gravel. It scares me to death and back and back again.) I lost traction on the front tire. Before I had fully realized that I'd just lost traction on my front wheel, it had recovered.
The shitting in my pants came later. There were a few other times that the front felt like it was loose, but I can't tell you if it was my lack of skill or the tire to blame.
These tires have only a few hundred miles on them. They're showing the same kind of edge that my Bridgestones had with 10k miles on them.
I'm honestly not sure if it's my riding or the tires. Time will tell, no doubt. Finances and life issues have meant that I'm not riding quite as much as I'm used to. Regardless, it will be months (I hope) before I can compare the longevity of the Bridgestones to the Shinkos.
Where my stock Bridgestones would slide (kind of felt like I was in a car, trying to drift the corner) the Shinkos stuttered. They didn't slide, they just "stuttered." That's the best I can describe it.
I had a sharp right corner, and there was gravel. (I hate gravel. It scares me to death and back and back again.) I lost traction on the front tire. Before I had fully realized that I'd just lost traction on my front wheel, it had recovered.
The shitting in my pants came later. There were a few other times that the front felt like it was loose, but I can't tell you if it was my lack of skill or the tire to blame.
These tires have only a few hundred miles on them. They're showing the same kind of edge that my Bridgestones had with 10k miles on them.
I'm honestly not sure if it's my riding or the tires. Time will tell, no doubt. Finances and life issues have meant that I'm not riding quite as much as I'm used to. Regardless, it will be months (I hope) before I can compare the longevity of the Bridgestones to the Shinkos.
BKP
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I have enough of a rear tire squaring on the stock Dunlop to warrant a new set. So, went to pull the trigger on a set of Michelin PR3s tonight, and the front is out of stock *everywhere *!
The price difference between the 2s and 3s isn't enough to go with the 8 year old technology. So, I'll wait... And, count on the rear holding up a few more hundred miles...
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The price difference between the 2s and 3s isn't enough to go with the 8 year old technology. So, I'll wait... And, count on the rear holding up a few more hundred miles...
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oOKooZOo
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I have close to 10,000 miles on my stock BA's. Finally have to break down and buy a set. And from what I've seen, I'm going with the PR3's. Thanks for the opinions on the thread!:thumbup:
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Honestly, had I the money, I'd have gone with the Michelin Road Pilot 2s. That's an awesome frickin' tire. From what I read, the Pirelli's have issues with wet traction.
I'm very much looking forward to your review of them.
I'm very much looking forward to your review of them.
oOKooZOo
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I'm waiting for the tire to arrive (which should be thursday). Then I have to have it put on. I had to just buy the rear for now. I'm losing too much air pressure in the current one. I have to fill it everyday. And its stupid that you have to pay for air at a gas station. Hopefully one of these days I will have all the fun toys. Too poor right now. Haha.:thumbdown:
BKP
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Bicycle pump works fine... Or, if you happen to dive and own a tank or two, and a regulator (or in my case six), there's an attachment available for a standard lp hose that'll inflate tires. I usually keep a minimum of 500 to 1000psi in the standard air tanks when they're not in use. Plenty to inflate pretty much anything.
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will415
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What was the price you paid out here in Fresno for them i just realized we live in the same city ha!!!
oOKooZOo
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Well I am no diver haha. And I don't even own a bicycle either. I haven't had a bicycle since I got my drivers license! I had the rear tire put on yesterday and it solved the problem.
Will: JT told me to hit you up because you live here in Fresno. I was planning on hittin' you up when I got both tires put on. Cash is running low so I have to wait on the front tire. But I ordered my rear tire off of motorcycle-superstore.com. The tire was about $165. I went to Wilson's Motorcycles and they charged $64 for the mount and balance and disposal. I also brought the whole bike in. So that cost more too. Took them about an hour. They also have a special going on right now for a set of Dunlop Road Smarts for $279 out the door. Great service.
Will: JT told me to hit you up because you live here in Fresno. I was planning on hittin' you up when I got both tires put on. Cash is running low so I have to wait on the front tire. But I ordered my rear tire off of motorcycle-superstore.com. The tire was about $165. I went to Wilson's Motorcycles and they charged $64 for the mount and balance and disposal. I also brought the whole bike in. So that cost more too. Took them about an hour. They also have a special going on right now for a set of Dunlop Road Smarts for $279 out the door. Great service.