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angelsneverlose
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i brought my FZ6R to the track last year. If you swtich the OEM tires for something sticky and good, the bike is great and a blast to ride!!
there is a video of it in the video or track section - i forgot which
there is a video of it in the video or track section - i forgot which
Why not?
its my first bike I'm not about to buy an R6 and kill myself I want somthing a little more mild.
I love racing I have been involved in motorsports of the 4 wheeled variety for a while now but its too damn expensive. I need a reliable DD that I don't have to worry about working on till 5am trying to fix my car from the track day the day before. I figure I can get my speed fix from a bike since you can go much faster for much cheaper.
its my first bike I'm not about to buy an R6 and kill myself I want somthing a little more mild.
I love racing I have been involved in motorsports of the 4 wheeled variety for a while now but its too damn expensive. I need a reliable DD that I don't have to worry about working on till 5am trying to fix my car from the track day the day before. I figure I can get my speed fix from a bike since you can go much faster for much cheaper.
Why would you kill yourself on an R6? Ever ridden one? Get the bike you want and learn to adapt to what you want to do with it. R6 is a great track bike and an all around town bike, wouldnt want to take it for long touring trips but if you must and have the determination, there are mods that you can do to the R6 to make it much more comfortable. Where as for the fz6r, there are mods that can be done to our bikes to make them better off for the track, but in some of the threads here with R6 front end conversions you will end up spending alot of time off the bike and alot more money only to be turning your DD into a track bike. Also, our 6rs are only in there 2nd year of production and not many aftermarket companies are evening making parts yet or will be making parts yet untill they start to see some numbers of people wanting the fz6rs, so untill then, we are left with some very over-priced high dollar aftermarket products that most of us either cant afford, or rather put the money towards paying our toys off! In a perfect world everyone would have a DD and a track bike, but when it comes down to it, you need to just buy what you really want and learn to adapt to whatever riding situation you need it for. Okay I am done now :surrender:
no offense but your the first person I have heard from that dosn't think getting an r6 for your first bike is a very very bad idea.
I have never ridden a streetbike before in my like and super sports are very unforgiving. It would be like getting a corvette zr1 for my first car but faster.
I am following otheres advice and starting small.
I have never ridden a streetbike before in my like and super sports are very unforgiving. It would be like getting a corvette zr1 for my first car but faster.
I am following otheres advice and starting small.
OOOH Man,
Please start with the FZ6R, plenty of controllable power and fun, for a beginner. The R6 is a race bike, period, IMHO the dealers should be asking potential buyers how many years they've been riding!! Til you learn to work the clutch you run the risk of having that R6 power buck you right off, not only hurting yourself but costing you alot of expensive plastic.
You're absolutely right, it would be like learning to drive in a Corvette. It can be done but...!
Forget it man, get the FZ6R, be safe and have fun. Oh and save yourself what, 4 grand?
I think its kinda funny when riders think that an R6 is more dangerous than an FZ6R.
The R6 has more power but its not like someone has a gun to your head telling you to bring it up to 260km/hr...I can easily drive an R6 on the public streets below the speedlimit all day. I can be such a granny on an R6 I'd prob get a ticket for riding too slow. And on the other hand I've driven my FZ6R way too fast and prob would have lost my licence for a year if I was seen by the authorities.
This is why I bought an FZ6R : 1) Price 2) Comfort ie. riding position you can live on all day 3) insurance costs 4) styling
If youre buying a track bike youre prob going to want something more suited to the track with a suspension and brake system that can handle more than a couple laps. And after riding my FZ6R with the stock front end I personally dont think the forks are set-up well for track use...They are too soft for the track IMO. Yes people can ride it on the track but you're going to be nursing this bike around corners at higher than highway speeds and I dont think youre going to enjoy that. But is great for riding on country roads with less than perfect pavement...and thats why I bought it...
The R6 has more power but its not like someone has a gun to your head telling you to bring it up to 260km/hr...I can easily drive an R6 on the public streets below the speedlimit all day. I can be such a granny on an R6 I'd prob get a ticket for riding too slow. And on the other hand I've driven my FZ6R way too fast and prob would have lost my licence for a year if I was seen by the authorities.
This is why I bought an FZ6R : 1) Price 2) Comfort ie. riding position you can live on all day 3) insurance costs 4) styling
If youre buying a track bike youre prob going to want something more suited to the track with a suspension and brake system that can handle more than a couple laps. And after riding my FZ6R with the stock front end I personally dont think the forks are set-up well for track use...They are too soft for the track IMO. Yes people can ride it on the track but you're going to be nursing this bike around corners at higher than highway speeds and I dont think youre going to enjoy that. But is great for riding on country roads with less than perfect pavement...and thats why I bought it...
Like I said I'm starting with a more manigeable bike. I could ride an r6 around like an old lady too but like I said I want to go to the track and have some fun and starting on any super sport is going to be too much for me to handle.
Whats the point of having all that power if you are too green to use it.
Again super sports have much more throttle and brake response and are horrible to learn on. Once I get decnt with this bike it will be sold and then I will step up to the super sport plate. Everyone I have heard from says that you will progress much faster as a rider if you start smaller mostly due to the fact that you won't be scared shitless to go anywere near WOT or get on the brakes hard.
Whats the point of having all that power if you are too green to use it.
Again super sports have much more throttle and brake response and are horrible to learn on. Once I get decnt with this bike it will be sold and then I will step up to the super sport plate. Everyone I have heard from says that you will progress much faster as a rider if you start smaller mostly due to the fact that you won't be scared shitless to go anywere near WOT or get on the brakes hard.
I completely agree. If you're brand new the worst thing you can do is jump onto something like an R6 IMO. I've watched some brand new riders really struggle with 600 supersports recently.
exactly I feel this will be a great bike to learn on then eventually step up to the r6 since it has the inline four 600cc engine so I will have a good feel for the style of setup and have a good feel for the gyroscopic aspect of the inline 4 as opposed to the vtwin soport bikes (sv650r)
Not knocking our FZ6R, but when you started this thread, you specifically said you wanted a track bike... here's my thoughts. Had you said you just wanted a good starter bike, I'd lean towards this one (as I did), but I'm not looking for track.
You should learn on a track bike... our bike does not have the suspension for it and it comes in a little heavy. Perfect for street, not so much for track.
You will have to learn all over again when you get onto any other 600, because ours has been tuned to be street ready, i.e. you will have no problems with surges in powerband, it is very linear (with maybe a little kick at 7-9k), you will be learning how to overcome a fixed suspension instead of learning with something designed for the track that can be tailored and adjusted as you learn your style.
And, who cares if your starting learning at granny speeds, you'd be doing that with the 6R as well, but within months (or maybe weeks) when you feel comfortable, you have just spent your money on a 6R that you will not be able to re-cooperate.
Just don't expect, or try to make, the 6R be what it's not. It's not a track bike. But it is a bike you can take to the track and learn safely where it's limits are and how to ride a sport bike. And I mean really RIDE a sport bike. The MSF class is great for beginners to learn the very basics of riding, but now after putting on a riding clinic with our sportbike group, I've realized how little they teach you about really riding a real motorcycle. Not those glorified scooters they have. The track is a great place to do that. I know most track day companies have classes you have to take if you're a first time track rider. Now I just need to convince my wife to let me run on a track. She's so cool about that kind of stuff usually, but she's got some block about me taking the bike on a track.
I never really said it was gonna be a track only bike. I will be driving it to and from work as many days as possible to help save on gas. I want this to be a bike I can take to work then go to some track days and learn how to do it. Once I step up to a super spor it will be the other way around.
I don't think that the FZ6R is THAT great of a bike yet when you want to get rid of it. I mean it's not really a demanding bike that people want, I look at my local craigslist and I have yet to see anyone post selling their FZ6R.
To be honest, if you're new to the motorcycle world I would suggest the new Ninja 250Rs. They have the new aggressive styling, and since you said when you're ready to move up you'll be selling it. That's another strong point of the Ninja as it's a great beginner bike and many people tend to upgrade after it for more power, thus it has popular demand. Also it's lightweight, and saves great on gas. I think the Ninja 250 will flick around corners faster than most bikes, and also my friend has one and he gets about 70 MPG.
I think the FZ6R would serve your purpose just fine. I commute daily on mine and have no problems taking long trips. On the weekends, I can also blaze the back roads and twisties with the same bike. A little later in the year, I hope to take it to the track.
Is it an ideal track bike, no. But will you still have a sh!t-eating grin on your face at the end of the day, hell yeah! You don't need to have a track bike to ride on a track. And if you are just learning, this bike is very forgiving. There are a large number of people on our sister site that take the FZ6 to the track and have a blast. That bike was not meant for the track either, but that doesn't stop them from having a great time. Heck, I have seen cruisers on the track before.
Track days are not just about going balls to the walls. It is a learning experience that most people will tell you makes them a better street rider.
The brakes can be upgraded with SS lines and EBC pads for better stopping ability. The front fork spring and oil can be changed to get rid of some of the softness inherent to the stock front forks. A set of new stickier tires and you would have no trouble running the FZ6R on the track.
This is all just my opinion.
Is it an ideal track bike, no. But will you still have a sh!t-eating grin on your face at the end of the day, hell yeah! You don't need to have a track bike to ride on a track. And if you are just learning, this bike is very forgiving. There are a large number of people on our sister site that take the FZ6 to the track and have a blast. That bike was not meant for the track either, but that doesn't stop them from having a great time. Heck, I have seen cruisers on the track before.
Track days are not just about going balls to the walls. It is a learning experience that most people will tell you makes them a better street rider.
The brakes can be upgraded with SS lines and EBC pads for better stopping ability. The front fork spring and oil can be changed to get rid of some of the softness inherent to the stock front forks. A set of new stickier tires and you would have no trouble running the FZ6R on the track.
This is all just my opinion.