Shooting spree across Calif county leaves 4 dead

[JT]

This is just tragic and horrible. WTF man
Shooting spree across Calif county leaves 4 dead
Shooting spree across Calif county leaves 4 dead - Yahoo! News

 

[BKP]

Incredibly unfortunate on many levels...
This is a sick bastard who decided to take a few with him... Not unlike the suicide nutjobs in Afghanistan...

However, the gun control advocates will exploit this, regardless of the fact that Orange County has the toughest gun control laws in California... and regardless of statistics like this, which are all too common:

Gun crimes increase in Massachusetts despite tough gun laws - The Smoking Chamber : The Smoking Chamber

Chicago's Rising Murder Rate Is Proof Positive That Gun Control Isn't Working

 

[Scott_Thomas]

Seriously, WTF is wrong with these F'n people? This world and country is going to $hit really quick. I've been shooting and hunting all my life and spent 9 years in the military, have had a concealed carry for about 12 years, but almost never carry. Stupid $hit like this makes me consider carrying all the time. Never know when some nut is gonna go off. Also makes me wanna not let my kids leave my sight.

 

[JT]

This stuff was always stuff I heard of growing up. now everyting is hapening way to close to home and more frequently so I am looking at CCW permit you never want to be in those situations vulnerable and defenseless.

 

[nismos14]

Wish he didn't commit suicide and could be tortured for the duration of his life.

 

[dart1963]

sad, but it wasn't guns that made me really consider a CCP...

this is where I work... I live a ways up the road, but this crap spreads...

Loudoun County, Va. murder has markings of a gang initiation - Norfolk Crime | Examiner.com


in a gun battle, obviously having a gun might help... but in a full on fist/bat/tire iron attack from multiple attackers, yeah... this gang crap has gotten out of control...

 

[Fizzer6R]

great more fuel for the (anti-gun) fire ... He lived with his parents ....He was unemployed

 

[Fizzer6R]

An 18-year-old Chicago woman was killed the same day her sister had sat on the stage behind President Barack Obama, listening to him push for gun control legislation.

Ill. Woman Killed Same Day Sister Sat Behind Obama - ABC News

 

[DakinechicK]

Unfortunately this kind of stuff has been happening for centuries.... It's just in the last 15 years or so become readily available to us via internet, tv, and newspapers. We hear about these kinds of things, a lot of time, AS they are happening with technology advancing as fast as it has.

This kind of violence is nothing new. Sad it has to happen at all though.

 

[CrazyCawi]

another way to exploit gun control. sorry for the lost lives today. so unfortunate

 

[DragonBlu]

Unfortunately this kind of stuff has been happening for centuries.... It's just in the last 15 years or so become readily available to us via internet, tv, and newspapers. We hear about these kinds of things, a lot of time, AS they are happening with technology advancing as fast as it has.

This kind of violence is nothing new. Sad it has to happen at all though.

You hit the nail on the head. When these things happened years ago in other countries or even other states we would see it in the inside of a newspaper weeks or even months later. Now it's instant sadness.

 

[Spunky99]

So why not post the OC gunman's name?
Is it racist to post names of non-whites?

Ali Syed

This is an Iraqi name
Syed is a Muslim name claiming descent from Mohammed's grandson Husain

I'm not saying anything other than we need more information on the people doing the killings. If it turns out that all of them have a common bond maybe we can deal with it.

They were quick to name and put pictures up of Loughner and Lanza but leave out the facts of which political party they are associate with and that they are mostly on some sort of anti-depressant.

With all the gun control talk, I still haven't heard one Politician say how they plan to take the guns out of the hands of criminals, just law abiding citizens.

None of the Politicians want to talk about the real problem in the USA...Mental Health. Because I'm hard pressed to find any incident where someone is killed by any means that doesn't involve a crazy lunatic or a criminal.

 

[Spunky99]

A little bit o' facts ...about the worst mass killing.....in the USA

At Virginia Tech, Seung-Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people and wounded 17 others in two separate attacks, approximately two hours apart, before committing suicide.
Cho had previously been diagnosed with a severe anxiety disorder. During much of his middle school and high school years, he received therapy and special education support. Due to Federal privacy laws, none of this information was available to Virginia Tech when he applied to go to school there.

Cho used two firearms during the attacks: a .22-caliber Walther P22 semi-automatic handgun and a 9 mm semi-automatic Glock 19 handgun.
Both guns had 10 round magazines in them.

So why is the gun control crowd going after AR-15s and 30 round magazines?
The Coroner said all the victims in Dandy Hook died from 9mm bullets fired from pistols of which Lanza had 4. The Bushmaster AR was found in the trunk of the car and was not used.

Assault weapons are classified as "fully automatic" weapons which have been banned for civilian use since 1932. The AR-15 only looks like an M-16 or M-4.

So if we add stickers to our motorcycles to make them look like a factory Yamaha MotoGP bike then they should also be outlawed as a race motorcycle that should not be driven on the street.

 

[MiltonDorkenhoff]

For some reason, I thought this part was kind of funny:

Jason Glass, who lives across the street, said he couldn't sleep and was watching TV in his garage with the door partly open when he heard what sounded like gun shots.​

It was 4 in the morning after all.

 

[MiltonDorkenhoff]

So why not post the OC gunman's name?
Is it racist to post names of non-whites?

Ali Syed

This is an Iraqi name
Syed is a Muslim name claiming descent from Mohammed's grandson Husain

I'm not saying anything other than we need more information on the people doing the killings. If it turns out that all of them have a common bond maybe we can deal with it.

They were quick to name and put pictures up of Loughner and Lanza but leave out the facts of which political party they are associate with and that they are mostly on some sort of anti-depressant.

With all the gun control talk, I still haven't heard one Politician say how they plan to take the guns out of the hands of criminals, just law abiding citizens.

None of the Politicians want to talk about the real problem in the USA...Mental Health. Because I'm hard pressed to find any incident where someone is killed by any means that doesn't involve a crazy lunatic or a criminal.

This post looks an awful lot like "politics" - I was under the impression (based on this thread) that we weren't supposed to be discussing politics here. Has that changed? Is the bar immune from that? Feel free to send me a private message to clarify, as opposed to just silently deleting my post (again).

 

[JT]

This post looks an awful lot like "politics" - I was under the impression (based on this thread) that we weren't supposed to be discussing politics here. Has that changed? Is the bar immune from that? Feel free to send me a private message to clarify, as opposed to just silently deleting my post (again).

I believe you are correct NO POLITICS anywhere in the forum. I did not intend on this thread to go this route I was simply sharing a tragic event.

Mods feel free to close the thread if necissary.

 

[Spunky99]

This post looks an awful lot like "politics" - I was under the impression (based on this thread) that we weren't supposed to be discussing politics here. Has that changed? Is the bar immune from that? Feel free to send me a private message to clarify, as opposed to just silently deleting my post (again).

I thought I put in some facts but remained neutral on the political agenda.
You can put me where you want to politically but speaking facts is not neccessarily purporting a particular political side or agenda.
I guess I could do the old Politically Correct thing and ignore all the facts and be a complete progressive....

Bringing up facts is not political unless you want it to and then...well I guess all discussions are political and all discussion should be banned because it doesn't meet your particular standards.

I think taking sides in a politics is political but I believe discussing issues should be open.

 

[dart1963]

It was dealt with, the way to report posts is to report them, not add more posts to the thread...

unfortunately, there is no other way to delete post other then "silently"...
so, I made mods to the OP, then had to go and delete yours, since it quoted the original post and had been addressed. if that makes sense?

This is the bar, there is some leeway given, but specifics on party agenda's, associations, etc. does not belong... simply saying "political party" or "political action" isn't necessarily talking about politics...