Seat lock stuck

[orourkei]

Hey all. I have a brand new '13 fz06 thats got a little over 300 miles on it. I went to go take the seat off to put it back to the low setting and measure to see how much cable I would need to install a USB charger but the passenger seat wouldn't budge! Ive taken it off plenty of times before so I'm not sure what the issue is. It will only seem to turn a few degrees counter clockwise before it seems to catch. I sprayed some WD 40 in it to try to loosen it up and i wiggles the key up down in out backward forward. you name it. all while moving the seat pushing it up, down etc etc. no luck . I cant get the dang thing to budge. Any idea's?

 

[Headlessmunky]

Maybe try the dealer. You said your bike was new and it should have a warranty. I would use a graphite based lubricant designed for locks.

 

[Scott_Thomas]

Hey all. I have a brand new '13 fz06 thats got a little over 300 miles on it. I went to go take the seat off to put it back to the low setting and measure to see how much cable I would need to install a USB charger but the passenger seat wouldn't budge! Ive taken it off plenty of times before so I'm not sure what the issue is. It will only seem to turn a few degrees counter clockwise before it seems to catch. I sprayed some WD 40 in it to try to loosen it up and i wiggles the key up down in out backward forward. you name it. all while moving the seat pushing it up, down etc etc. no luck . I cant get the dang thing to budge. Any idea's?

Sounds like it didn't latch right. I don't think the lock is bad, just sounds like it was out of position when you put it on. Hopefully you can get it off without breaking it. Let us know if you get it figured out.

 

[alaskanflyboy]

I've had it stick before. Pressing down on the front of the seat while turning the key often works. If that doesn't do it, I have had one time when my disk lock managed to slide forward and impede the latch from unlocking. I forget what I did to shake it back out.

 

[Scott_Thomas]

I've had it stick before. Pressing down on the front of the seat while turning the key often works. If that doesn't do it, I have had one time when my disk lock managed to slide forward and impede the latch from unlocking. I forget what I did to shake it back out.

That's what I think happened. I think something caught in the latch.

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[Nastybutler]

I had that happen from time to time. Usually when I had more under the seat than I should have had. Pressing down on the seat, as already mentioned, usually helped. If that doesn't work, then try using a thin rod, or something else slim, flexible, yet stiff, that you can slide up under your seat and try pushing things around to help free it up, if you have things under your seat.

 

[JT]

I had that happen from time to time. Usually when I had more under the seat than I should have had. Pressing down on the seat, as already mentioned, usually helped. If that doesn't work, then try using a thin rod, or something else slim, flexible, yet stiff, that you can slide up under your seat and try pushing things around to help free it up, if you have things under your seat.

I've had it stick before. Pressing down on the front of the seat while turning the key often works. If that doesn't do it, I have had one time when my disk lock managed to slide forward and impede the latch from unlocking. I forget what I did to shake it back out.

what they said^ puch down on the seat while you turn the key. if that does not work try side to side of even maybe lift it slightly one of those should work

 

[orourkei]

probably going to call the dealer at this point unless I can find a better diagram of the locking mechanism. from the right side of the bike I can see the metal "loop" thats from the passenger seat and when I turn the key I see the latch but it looks like it keeps getting stuck on something. I tried wiggling the mechanism with a probe and a screwdriver . I had my girlfriend sit on it while i was fiddling, had her turn the key while i sat on it. Its just getting hung up on something. cant say what.

like I said I'm new to this bike model so I don't know the ins and outs of it yet. If some one could steer me in the right direction of how the damn mechanism works ( so I could maybe apply some force in the right direction to coax it along) or even take off the main seat for easier access I would really appreciate it. Thanks!

edit: this is what I was going off of earlier to get a better idea of what i was working with. If i could unbolt 26 and 31 could I remove the front seat to get access to the locking mechanism? I have it set to the " high" configuration so there is enough clearance to access those bolts.

 

[Nastybutler]

edit: this is what I was going off of earlier to get a better idea of what i was working with. If i could unbolt 26 and 31 could I remove the front seat to get access to the locking mechanism? I have it set to the " high" configuration so there is enough clearance to access those bolts.

You'd need to remove 28 to lift the seat, and there's no way to get to them with the rear seat there. The other two are either inaccessible or are just to take the seat base/ battery cover off. Those are the ones you can see under the seat.

Sitting on it and trying to unlock it won't get you very far unless you're just trying to get it to turn farther. You can try pushing down with your hand while turning the key and if it still won't turn, then you might just need to take it to the dealer. Then they can try and figure out the puzzle.


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[orourkei]

I was thinking 26 because that's what's connecting 21 to the seat its self. I guess I don't need the seat off before I would take it to the dealer anyway( I was just looking to add a battery tender USB charger)

 

[orourkei]

so I solved the problem...

Short version : the tool pouch opened up and the screwdriver fell forward and lodged in-between the mechanism . ITs fixed!


Long version: First bolts I removed were 31 from the seat parts page and 16 from the tank page. that gave me clearance to access to the bolts that held #17 in place. at the point I could lift the tank and the seat enough to get the driver seat out of the part that holds it to the tank. then I unscrewed # 26 on the seat picture. I think at that point I was able to remove the driver seat and see what was happening to the locking mechanism. saw the screwdriver. It was wedged in there so I grabbled some pliers and pulled the shaft of it out leaving the handle behind but luckily that was enough . the seat immediately popped off and I was able to remove all the tools and make sure the mechanism worked problem free before I put the seat back on. so I bolted it all back on and sent for a ride!


I think the only reason I was able to access the bolts was because the seat was in the " high" positing which gave me the clearance I needed. . Moral of the story. Keep that bag closed!

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[alaskanflyboy]

Glad you got it solved. I always tie that bag closed just because I don't want to add the frustration of searching for tools on top of the frustration of whatever incident has me using the kit instead of my good tools at home. So are you out the screwdriver now, or were you able to get the shaft back in the handle in a useful manner? Not that there's much use for it except tightening the screws back down on the windscreen if it starts buzzing on a ride.

 

[orourkei]

I was able to get everything back once I popped the back seat off. . the pouch is tied off and strapped down this time. nothing loose! I set my seat to the low position to try it out for a bit so I wouldn't be able to take the seat off that way again if I wanted to.

 

[latony007]

i would suggest two people, have one hold the key while the other jiggles the seat around to get it to come off, its a major pain. I had my seats redone because they suck on this bike. I also added a USB charger to my Battery Tender Cable.

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