Well, I wasn't gonna post in this thread cause it was kinda old, but someone else brought it back to life. There was a question about the Bohn Bodyguard Adventure pants, which I just happened to have bought lately. The adventure pants are the standard lycra with pads pants. They fit very well if you pay attention to the sizing chart. Work well even under regular jeans. If they are too hot for your location, you can order the mesh style pants which look like they would be cooler. Haven't had to test them first hand for protection, but at least the pads STAY where they belong! Overall they are are really nice and work well under something like Dragon jeans or something along those lines for maximum protection without going to leathers.