retune the de tuned
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arcflash316
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there is a thread somewhere about that topic... I think the differences are in the cam?? I am not sure but that would be nice to have the power an R6 has in our chassi......
i was wonderin like if the only way to get more power to make it like an r6 is to get like a powercommander or is there certain adjustments that can b made to get more out of it
The difference is the cam, the head design and the intake to include the number of fuel injectors thus the ECU would also have to be swapped out of the R6. Given the design of both, it would take some serious engineering to make the intake work on the FZ6R.
You can get some decent gains with just the modded airbox, higher capacity flow air filter, after market exhaust and the PC V. Then take it to a pro and have him tune for your riding style, but more importantly, your altitude. A map created in FL with the same mods on a bike in Denver, CO isn't going to work well at all, nor would it vise-versa.
I think, after looking at it, the best and easiest gain would be to swap out the FZ6 98 hp engine and ECU for the FZ6R engine.
You can get some decent gains with just the modded airbox, higher capacity flow air filter, after market exhaust and the PC V. Then take it to a pro and have him tune for your riding style, but more importantly, your altitude. A map created in FL with the same mods on a bike in Denver, CO isn't going to work well at all, nor would it vise-versa.
I think, after looking at it, the best and easiest gain would be to swap out the FZ6 98 hp engine and ECU for the FZ6R engine.
lol im not lookin to do all that im just lookin for a lil more power with out doin much i dont wanna spend alot of money nor do i wanna change the bike TOO muchThe difference is the cam, the head design and the intake to include the number of fuel injectors thus the ECU would also have to be swapped out of the R6. Given the design of both, it would take some serious engineering to make the intake work on the FZ6R.
You can get some decent gains with just the modded airbox, higher capacity flow air filter, after market exhaust and the PC V. Then take it to a pro and have him tune for your riding style, but more importantly, your altitude. A map created in FL with the same mods on a bike in Denver, CO isn't going to work well at all, nor would it vise-versa.
I think, after looking at it, the best and easiest gain would be to swap out the FZ6 98 hp engine and ECU for the FZ6R engine.
cbzdel
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how about the R6 big bore kit
I'm quite sure that you cannot add that many HP with those two mods... Based on that theory, the same two mods would put the FZ6 from 98 to 115 hp and the FZ1 to 154 hp. :surrender:
fstrthan_uthink
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Yea that seems like a bit much
Dunno though, I don't have a PCV or exhaust
Still though 65 horsepower stock at the rear wheel ain't bad.
65hp/470lbs = .1382979 power-to-weight ratio
To get a 3400lb car to the same ratio, you'd need roughly 470hp at the drive wheels lol
Dunno though, I don't have a PCV or exhaust
Still though 65 horsepower stock at the rear wheel ain't bad.
65hp/470lbs = .1382979 power-to-weight ratio
To get a 3400lb car to the same ratio, you'd need roughly 470hp at the drive wheels lol
I never looked at it that way and forgot about power to weight ratio...Yea that seems like a bit much
Dunno though, I don't have a PCV or exhaust
Still though 65 horsepower stock at the rear wheel ain't bad.
65hp/470lbs = .1382979 power-to-weight ratio
To get a 3400lb car to the same ratio, you'd need roughly 470hp at the drive wheels lol
So, the FZ1, the current mods and trimming I have done, the bike is at 474.2 lbs
@ 142 HP, the ratio is 0.2994517
Although, we'd have to reduce these with rider/gear weight. BUT, I can drop another 30 lbs! Free mod!
Power to weight is everything on a bike. Even bike to bike. My dad's Harley FatBoy is about the same horsepower as my bike (eventhough it's a completely different power band and more than twice the displacement ) and I can out run him any day. His bike weighs 740#'s! 300#'s more than mine. That's a big difference.
) and I can out run him any day. His bike weighs 740#'s! 300#'s more than mine. That's a big difference.according to many of the dynos, the stock bike runs at approx 64 - 65 HP ...according to a pcv dynos, the bike jumps to 82 - 85 HP (not including an exhaust mod)...if the M4/TBR exhaust is suppose to add approx 8% increase...you are looking at an approximation of 88 to 96HP depending on other mods and how good your dyno tuner is...so yes two mods CAN add that much HP, depends on who's doing the modding...hell just by swapping a few engine parts and seals you can PUSH an engine galore...look at the MIT guys that took an LS1 motor and tuned it to run the quarter in 10secs or less...and that was just fine tuning, NO new parts
A buddy of mine has a CBR 600 that he fine tuned and it slays busas...
A buddy of mine has a CBR 600 that he fine tuned and it slays busas...
Tell ya what... you go do just these two mods and have the pro squeak ALL the HP out of this bike he can muster. Proof is in the results, right? My bet is this estimate is overly ambitious at best... for *just* these two mods.
Pardon me but I DID say try it. Some are good, some are great but these two mods and the greatest pro tuner isn't going to increase the HP of the FZ6R 30+%. Thus, I ask that there be proof.
I've been around bikes for 34 years... That is unheard of.
joloy133 is pushing 90hp...he did an exhaust mod (not a new exhaust) and a pcv...why is 6 more horsepower so out of the question when people tweak engines all the time? As for two mods "just two mods," i can do it in one...TURBO...just saying...i would love to show you...but i have an auto tuner...no dyno needed...plus im doing something else with the exhaust
It was stated by yourself it could be done with the exhaust and PC V... Suddenly a turbo comes into the mix? I said "just THOSE two mods" meaning the ones you claim will get the bike from 64-65 hp to over 90 hp.
We have a TON of guys on the regular FZ6 forum that have done those two mods along with several others and the BEST gain we've seen out of that bike is a grand total of 9 hp added to stock dyno runs.
I just don't believe you can do the above with the two mods you've pointed out. It's impossible. I'll eat ALL the humble pie you can dish out if I'm proven wrong. :surrender:
