Question for juice box pro owners

[Bruno]

Hello guys. I've recently ordered the juice box pro and i'm trying to understand how it works in advance... Do the adjustments directly on the device (Is that what "on the fly" means anyway?) appear on the Tune software chart? Lets say i make some changes on the zero map directly on the device, when i plug it to my PC and look at the chart on the sofware, will i see those changes (Or it keeps showing all those zeroes)?

Thanks!

Bruno

 

[Kayo7]

I have one, but I don't have much experience with it since its cold and snowing in Chicago and I just installed it at the end of the season. But from the little bit that I have played with it, there are 10 different preset spots that you can fill on the box. You have to download the maps off the computer, use Marthy's maps, or create your own. If you wanted to switch the map "on the fly" you would have to mount the box somewhere easily accessible where you can turn the knob. The problem I see with that is it's not an outward facing knob, have to use a pocket screw driver to turn. But that's about the extent of my knowledge on it so far. Hope that helps.

 

[SpawnXX]

It depends on what you are trying to do. There are 10 slots, 2 which are preloaded with TBR's tunings on a dyno. They are as follows...

0. Zero Map
1. Stock Exhaust & Stock Filter Map <---Was tuned with the AIS installed
2. TBR Exhaust and Stock Filter Map <---Was tuned with the AIS installed
3-9. Empty Custom Map Spots

Altering Maps Using TopTune Software:
The values in the map represent a percentage of fuel change over stock. A value of 10 in the map indicates at that throttle position and RPM range the vehicle will be 10% richer than stock. If the value is -10, then it would be 10% leaner than stock. You have the ability to fine tune your fuel curve by altering these values. The TopTune software allows a value of +250 to -100 in each cell.

You can create your own map with the software connected to your bike and then save it, or upload a downloaded map by connecting your JBPro to your laptop or pc and using the TopTune software, use upload and tell it which control position you want it to go to 3-9.

I hope this helps, let me know if I misunderstood the question.

 

[Marthy]

The TB map should get you very close with the FZ6 cams. I started with the TB and worked from there. You can try any of my maps (compatible) use Sport or Touring maps only. Advgear won't work with TBPro. Yep, it's like a Excel spreadsheet. You can copy & paste. If you select a area or cel you can use up/down button to increase or decrease the numbers. Have fun!

 

[SpawnXX]

If you do use Marthy's maps and don't see them in the Top Tune browser when you first download them just switch the file type to Power Commander Map (.pvm, djm) . It appears they were created with that.

 

[Bruno]

It depends on what you are trying to do. There are 10 slots, 2 which are preloaded with TBR's tunings on a dyno. They are as follows...

0. Zero Map
1. Stock Exhaust & Stock Filter Map <---Was tuned with the AIS installed
2. TBR Exhaust and Stock Filter Map <---Was tuned with the AIS installed
3-9. Empty Custom Map Spots

Altering Maps Using TopTune Software:
The values in the map represent a percentage of fuel change over stock. A value of 10 in the map indicates at that throttle position and RPM range the vehicle will be 10% richer than stock. If the value is -10, then it would be 10% leaner than stock. You have the ability to fine tune your fuel curve by altering these values. The TopTune software allows a value of +250 to -100 in each cell.

You can create your own map with the software connected to your bike and then save it, or upload a downloaded map by connecting your JBPro to your laptop or pc and using the TopTune software, use upload and tell it which control position you want it to go to 3-9.

I hope this helps, let me know if I misunderstood the question.

Thanks! Indeed it is something i wanted to know.

 

[Bruno]

But if i set the device on given map through the screw on it and play if the adjustment... Later if i plug the device to the PC and choose this map, would these adjusments appear? It is kind a hard question to answer, i know... I was just wondering...

 

[SpawnXX]

But if i set the device on given map through the screw on it and play if the adjustment... Later if i plug the device to the PC and choose this map, would these adjusments appear? It is kind a hard question to answer, i know... I was just wondering...

Technically, they should. JBPro is designed for on the fly adjustments, unlike the PCV.

 

[Marthy]

Dont worry avout adjusting it using your butt dyno only. I used the Auto tune and LCD-200 with data loger. Even with all that it was quite a lot of work to get it right.

Install everything and load the TB map, its the closest base map that work good. Then invest few $$$ on a good dyno tune...

The PCV is adjustable on the fly with the LCD-200.

I'll check out my map and put one together for you. Mine is set with a map sensor, so I have a TPS and Pressure map workinh together... wont work for you. PM me your email.

Sent from my LG-P925 using Tapatalk 2

 

[SpawnXX]

Be careful with dyno tuning if you use a Carbon TBR Can. I have to agree with Marthy on this though, stick to what the experts did for you already. =)

and Marthy, I was referring to out of the box. Not all the fancy purchase necessary accessory/add-ons for the pcv.

 

[Marthy]

Be careful with dyno tuning if you use a Carbon TBR Can. I have to agree with Marthy on this though, stick to what the experts did for you already. =)

and Marthy, I was referring to out of the box. Not all the fancy purchase necessary accessory/add-ons for the pcv.

All cool, I was just letting you know It can do it. I never used it anyway.

 

[Bruno]

Here is the answer i got from a Juice Box representative:

"Can you make adjustments directly on the device (On the fly)?
Yes
Do the changes on the fly appear on the Tune software chart?
If you turn any of the 3 dials, no, the changes do not apear on the map as each of the 3 dials add a value of either 10% positive or 10% negitive ontop of the map we have created."

 

[06330i]

So I already have a complaint about the jb pro, the dial to change the map you're on not only doesn't give you a great idea if you're in the right map or in between maps, and also that plastic srew is very very crappy. I was very easy on it when I was switching maps and its practically stripped out. Has anyone else had this issue?

 

[06330i]

Also forgot to mention, I noticed on the 6 pin connecter that there was only 5 pins, one of mine was was non existant. Is that ok?

 

[Ricenoodle]

hey guys, I'm trying to mess with my juice box pro to install marthy maps, looking at the pic, can any owner of the jb tell me how do I know what map am I in? there's 10 maps and the first 2 are preset, so what's the easiest way to load a map into map position #3? using top tune software? is it possible to override the 2 stock maps? don't want to do that by flashing into the wrong spot, thanks.

 

[SpawnXX]

hey guys, I'm trying to mess with my juice box pro to install marthy maps, looking at the pic, can any owner of the jb tell me how do I know what map am I in? there's 10 maps and the first 2 are preset, so what's the easiest way to load a map into map position #3? using top tune software? is it possible to override the 2 stock maps? don't want to do that by flashing into the wrong spot, thanks.

Yes, use the Top Tune software. Nothing will be done at the controls on the box. You plug it into a pc, open the map, then send it to position #(whichever you want to send it to) All done in the software. Doesn't matter where the knob is ON the device when this is happening. Then just move the knob to the position you set the desired map to and badda bing badda boom.

 

[MaximumHP]

When the JB is plugged in you can see what map you have set in the software too, it's kinda hard to see on the little screw with certainty which map you are in. You can download the preset maps from Twobros and re-upload if you did somehow overwrite their maps, so have at it. I had no idea what I was doing when I started, but it's fairly easy to figure out with some messing around. I don't have a laptop so I had a 15 foot USB cord out my window to hook up to my bike, lol.

 

[Ricenoodle]

,“ Then just move the knob to the position you set the desired map to and badda bing badda boom.

thanks for the replies. but how do you know what position you're at to set it after you send it to the appropriate spot in the software? It's a Phillips screw, not really the best indicator. know what I mean. maybe I'm nuking it

 

[MaximumHP]

thanks for the replies. but how do you know what position you're at to set it after you send it to the appropriate spot in the software? It's a Phillips screw, not really the best indicator. know what I mean. maybe I'm nuking it

See the picture below, it's kinda an arrow, but like I said, it can be hard to see. I like to verify the position with the software, which will tell which position is selected. My suggestion is using a perfectly sized flat head in the non-arrow portion of the screw so you don't strip it out.