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Long Term Review FZ6R

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Subscribed to this guy on YouTube awhile back. What do you think about his comments of our bike?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WuXWw5NkYw]YouTube - FZ6R[/ame]
 
i think this guy's review is better
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjc-8L_UPzg]YouTube - Yamaha FZ6R Review[/ame]
 
i think this guy's review is better
YouTube - Yamaha FZ6R Review

It's a good review if I was interested in buying a FZ6R.

I should have been clearer, basically I'm wondering what everyone thinks about his comments about the sport touring, sports bike, commuter bike aka (in his words) "Urban Motard".

Should we upgrade to a new bike or upgrade components of the FZ6R when we've out grown it? Regardless if we're tourers, sport riders, or commuters.

And if we choose to upgrade the components of the bike, would we be satisfied with the outcome...as the title says "Long Term"...or are we just dumping more money into a bike we'll upgrade out of?

I've come to this point and thats why I'm asking.
 
I myself prefer the 2nd review over the first. As far as I am concerned,,you can't compare a FZ6R to a GSXR/R6/Ninja 600/CBR 600RR,period. The FZ6R is a totally different kind of bike. This bike is marketed as a all rounder and I think Yamaha did a good job of this. Many years ago when I was a young pup I lusted for a motorcycle and did allot of reading on bikes in general. One bike that (at the time) was a icon was the Honda SOHC 750/4 . These were what we used to call U.J.M.'s(Universal Japanese Motorcycle) and it could do anything. Put as set of bags on it with a Vetter Faring and you had a touring bike. Put on a set of drag bars/ cafe bars with bar end mirrors,4 into 1 pipe,rejett the carbs and you had a race bike. This Honda 750 if I remember correctly had about 55 H.P. at the crank, 1 disk brake,and weighted about 525 LBS wet. Honda sold thousands of these over the years and the gereral motorcycling public were happy. I don't know why the 1st reviewer says that the FZ6R does not have enough power to be a touring bike but I dissagree. If years ago people were satisfied with the Honda 750K and F series to use for cross country traveling, then our FZ6R is way ahead in technology,fuel millage,handeling ETC and besides 60/65MPH back in the early 1070's is still 60/65 MPH today. I think that our sport has evolved to such a specialized degree that the manufactures in the past have forgotten for the most part how to make a good all round bike.Until now. Now they are catching on with the FZ6R, Honda CBF 600,Suzuki Gladius 650,and the 650 Twin series from Kawasaki(Ninja,ER-6N etc). Sure I had crotch rockets in the past(RD 350/RZ 350/Ninja 600R/GSXR 750's),but for me approching my mid-fifties the FZ6R is perfect(almost). Handles well,comphy,great fuel millage,and yes enough power for passing cars,big rigs,on the highway. This bike still have enough to get you in serious trouble if you are not careful(God it will hit about 130 MPH after all). So everyone please ride safe and with in your limits. Sorry for my rant but I had to say something. Laurie Potter.
 
IMO there both pretty good reviews. This is my first bike and love it. I will hold on to it for awhile. It has all the power I need right now and does what I need it to do and that's have fun riding.
 
IMO there both pretty good reviews. This is my first bike and love it. I will hold on to it for awhile. It has all the power I need right now and does what I need it to do and that's have fun riding.

This sums up my opinion as well. I always want bigger and badder, but that's just who I am. I think for a commuter it's tough to beat this bike though. If I wanted my bike as a toy I would (and probably will someday) get a supersport for those days that I feel a little frisky. :)
 
Well I thought he was a little hard on the bike. He said he learned on the bike so not a lot of experience. As for my experience I started rideing in 1962 on a 250 Ducati. I rode for 20yrs and quit in 1980 and resumed in 2004. Since 2004 I have owned a number of bikes including...FZ1,1250 Bandit,Sv650 Suzuki,650 Ninja and several different cruisers.

Also I have demo rides on over 90 different bikes at Bike week and Biketoberfest and one trip to Sturgis. Rode all of the Yamaha sport bikes and all of the Kawsakis, most of the Triumps,Suzuki,and even most of the Harleys and the rest.

The fz6r is a grate bike for the money. In my opinon it is a sport bike,it is not a tourer but yes you can tour on it. I think anything that is capable of the speeds this bike can do qualifies as a sport bike. Yes there are lots of faster ones,and better brakes,suspension, ect. But some of the descriptions make it sound like a scooter.:confused:
 
The issues are of the following:
"Touring"
The 1st reviewer claims it under powered to be considered a good long distance touring bike. Which in my thoughts, is true, not specific to our bike but 600cc's compared to liter bikes or greater. The 1st review says the bike has trouble over taking cars. Which I totally disagreed with, cause I fly by cars all the time =P. But then again, I'm on flat highways. On inclined roads I can definitely see his point. If I'm not mistaken good touring bikes need comfort and torque. Which again, is not specific to our bike but to 600's. Now take in mind long distance touring can be done with the FZ6R or any other 600cc bike, but what is preferred. Ask yourself this: If you had to take a cross country trip would you take the sports car, 4x4 truck, or the luxury sedan. I would assume most people would take the luxury sedan.

"Sport"
By now you already know what I'm going to say about track days or twisties. We all know the limitations the bike has in this area. Again I'm not saying that the bike can't do it, but sub par in "race terms". You can spend $$$ to upgrade the bike to perform better....but why wouldn't you just spend the $$$ for a 600 super sport?

Meh didn't mean for this to be a wall of text so here's a summary:
"Commuter"
In Tony's words "It's GRRREAT!!"

So with all that being said, the FZ6R is more than a capable bike. It's a "Jake of all trades, but master of none". Which is true. Our bike capable of doing touring and twisties to an extent.

So if you have any experiences with this bike please share your opinions. I started this thread to spark a discussion about the limitations and ways to improve those limitations, considering the design of the FZ6R and as a 600cc in general.
 
People purchasing this bike with the expectations of a super sport will be let down. However, I find this bike very satisfying in riding the twisties and canyons here in the Texas Hill Country. I routinely hit over 110mph on several of the straightaways, and hit it fairly agressively through a lot of the regular twisties (75/80 in 50mph curves). These roads have it all and the bike handles well. Would I like more power, sure, but for the price point and what this bike is designed for it does it very well.

Folks spending thousands to make this into an R6, or even something more, in my opinion should have just bought an R6. I researched before I bought and kept reasonable expectations. Yet, my expectations were still exceeded with this purchase and I'm happy with the bike. I will get another, more powerful bike later, just because I want more bikes :) But man, this FZ6R for the price everyone pays for it is a great deal.

Summary, great bike at the price. Shortcomings? Absolutely and you can find lots of fault. Those faults are easily overcome by purchasing another bike (you don't buy an Accord to drive like a Porsche). So, as long as expectations are kept in check, you can have loads of fun with this bike. 100mph plus stretches, easily cruises on highway at over 75, handles twisties well for us non-professionals (pre-load set at 6 for me made a huge improvement).
 
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People purchasing this bike with the expectations of a super sport will be let down. However, I find this bike very satisfying in riding the twisties and canyons here in the Texas Hill Country. I routinely hit over 110mph on several of the straightaways, and hit it fairly agressively through a lot of the regular twisties (75/80 in 50mph curves). These roads have it all and the bike handles well. Would I like more power, sure, but for the price point and what this bike is designed for it does it very well.

Folks spending thousands to make this into an R6, or even something more, in my opinion should have just bought an R6. I researched before I bought and kept reasonable expectations. Yet, my expectations were still exceeded with this purchase and I'm happy with the bike. I will get another, more powerful bike later, just because I want more bikes :) But man, this FZ6R for the price everyone pays for it is a great deal.

Summary, great bike at the price. Shortcomings? Absolutely and you can find lots of fault. Those faults are easily overcome by purchasing another bike (you don't buy an Accord to drive like a Porsche). So, as long as expectations are kept in check, you can have loads of fun with this bike. 100mph plus stretches, easily cruises on highway at over 75, handles twisties well for us non-professionals (pre-load set at 6 for me made a huge improvement).

In regards to your pre-load. If you don't mind me asking, but how much do you weight? I'm pre-loaded a at 5 - 180 pounds w/o gear. Going to try out 6.
 
In regards to your pre-load. If you don't mind me asking, but how much do you weight? I'm pre-loaded a at 5 - 180 pounds w/o gear. Going to try out 6.

I don't mind, I'm 195. I just kept bumping it up and 5 actually felt real good, but for the more aggressive riding in the hills and twisties I bumped it to 6 and really liking it, feels more stable. So far I've rode the same roads from the stock (3) setting up to 6 and it's like a totally different bike.
 
Oh, forgot to mention bjs, check your tire pressure too. I know you're under the spec to move to 42psi, but you are at the far end of the 36psi weight limit so, just a suggestion is go from 36psi to 42 psi (rear). I'm not a tire expert, so this is just a suggestion, but it makes a difference for me. Maybe some of the more-informed tire experts can help out here.
 
Oh, forgot to mention bjs, check your tire pressure too. I know you're under the spec to move to 42psi, but you are at the far end of the 36psi weight limit so, just a suggestion is go from 36psi to 42 psi (rear). I'm not a tire expert, so this is just a suggestion, but it makes a difference for me. Maybe some of the more-informed tire experts can help out here.

I'm about 235 lbs. I have mine set at 5 for normal riding but will bump it up to 6 when taking the backroads. I also have my tire pressure at 36 front/42 rear. I can tell when the pressure is down a few PSI, so it does make a difference.
 
He said it's not a good bike for long distance touring? 'shooooottttt, I was looking at this bike & the Kawasaki Ninja 650 R for that purpose. Any other suggestions......
 
He said it's not a good bike for long distance touring? 'shooooottttt, I was looking at this bike & the Kawasaki Ninja 650 R for that purpose. Any other suggestions......

That's subjective in my opinion depending on your "long distance" definition. In the purest sense, like all-day or multi-state riding, maybe not. I typically ride around 4+ hours each time on the weekends and it does just fine. So, decide on what kind of touring you will do, and then look at the tool (bike).
 
So, I can still ride this bike from the Bay Area, SF to Oklahoma & back? I wonder ......
 
If I was going to do my dream trip on this bike or the 650R, I would think, I'll be riding for about 7 to 10 hrs. with of course stops for gas, food and breaks....I don't want to purchase the bike & later on realize that I got the wrong bike for my intended use or purpose.
 
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