I had one of the coaches in my riding clinic I put on last month show guys how you can drag knee at just about any speed. I'm not kidding you he was draggin knee in the parking lot going around the planters at 20 mph! The control he had was insane!As I read this, I was picturing you draggin a knee through the grocery store parking lot...going so slow that you pivot around on your knee!
Chicken Strip
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flyingminno
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Here are mine, my right ride has the most so it is the chicken side . I'm trying to eliminate the strip but the pegs are scraping by the time I am leaning over far enough to get to that point.
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That's how I pick up the ladies. I can't count how many numbers I have gotten by draggin' knee at the gym after yoga class.As I read this, I was picturing you draggin a knee through the grocery store parking lot...going so slow that you pivot around on your knee!
Are you saying the only time you lean the bike over is to put it on the kickstand? :justkidding:
http://www.600cc.org/forum/f87/rear-tire-wear-18780/
It all depends on how you ride and your type of tires. If your aggressive and primarily ride twisties, probably around 4-6k. About 80% of my riding is commuting. I have over 13k on my stocks and think I can probably get to 15-16k before new tires.
put it this way, add the the strips on the side and it would probably be more than the wear in the middle.Are you saying the only time you lean the bike over is to put it on the kickstand? :justkidding:
This is how I learned as well. We did practice at slow speeds down to about 20 mph too. It really teaches you more about your bike than trying to accomplish the same thing at speed.
As I said, with proper technique, the speed will come and the strips will go.
Dart, it's not just for the track and no, you don't have to be going ludicrous speed to practice. While the cops may notice, often times, it's between 5 and 10 over and they just stare and grumble.
Around here a lot of cops don't really care much about hanging off. It's the double yellow passing, speeding, etc... In fact I know guys who have gone to a certain area we ride often and do laps and had the cops pull over and let them by and told them they didn't want to spoil their fun. As long as you're not being ridiculous and unsafe, the Sheriff's are pretty cool. It's the CHP you have to watch out for.
ME_with_a_B
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I'm still learning how to lean without having an anxiety attack... I have serious concerns about slipping and wrecking...
So my strips are nothing to be proud of :disapprove:
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And after looking at these pictures, I've realized I lean much more on my right turns than my left... hmmm... I wonder why...
So my strips are nothing to be proud of :disapprove:
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And after looking at these pictures, I've realized I lean much more on my right turns than my left... hmmm... I wonder why...
dcBear78
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Are you left handed?
nah, it's that most exits are right hand exits. Unless you are only hitting twisties, with equal left/right turns, you'll always have more off the right, just a numbers thing.
Chicken strips and risk
On the ZX forum, one of the posts said his chicken strips were "father of two young kids with a mortgage" wide, 1". I thought that was a great answer, because it shows his unwillingness to take an unacceptable risk of crashing.
How far you can successfully lean your bike over is a combination of three main things: tires, skill and risk.
You can increase your skill and buy better tires, but there will always be risk. If you lean your bike all the way over, you increase your risk of losing traction and lowsiding or highsiding if:
-you hit a small patch of dirt, oil or uneven pavement.
-the turn gets tighter (reducing radius - you will ride off the road).
I believe that chicken strips are a measure of your skill combined with your tolerance for the risk of crashing.
Having said all that, mine are 1/2" on the FZ6R and 1/4" on the ZX14.
I find the OEM FZ6R tires greasy in the corners, not confidence inspiring.
On the ZX forum, one of the posts said his chicken strips were "father of two young kids with a mortgage" wide, 1". I thought that was a great answer, because it shows his unwillingness to take an unacceptable risk of crashing.
How far you can successfully lean your bike over is a combination of three main things: tires, skill and risk.
You can increase your skill and buy better tires, but there will always be risk. If you lean your bike all the way over, you increase your risk of losing traction and lowsiding or highsiding if:
-you hit a small patch of dirt, oil or uneven pavement.
-the turn gets tighter (reducing radius - you will ride off the road).
I believe that chicken strips are a measure of your skill combined with your tolerance for the risk of crashing.
Having said all that, mine are 1/2" on the FZ6R and 1/4" on the ZX14.
I find the OEM FZ6R tires greasy in the corners, not confidence inspiring.
Excellent post. Having chicken strips on your tires isn't really a bad thing. I've been doing a lot of thinking the last week after loosing a friend to an accident. And although we do try and be safe when riding aggressively by scouting roads for debris, not riding more than about 70% of what we could do on a track, etc... I'm beginning to think about drawing a sharper line between what is fun and what is just plain dangerous. I went out for a ride with my Dad yesterday and kept a considerably slower pace than normal. Fast enough so he scraped his floor boards a bunch (which isn't hard to do on a FatBoy) but still feeling a bit spirited. At that pace with new tires using proper body positioning, I would have a chicken strip over an inch wide. For most riding, I think that's perfectly acceptable and still a fun ride. And that's the pace I'm planning on riding for the most part from now on. I'm not saying I'm not going to open it up from time to time on roads that I've scouted, don't have blind corners, etc... But don't be ashamed if you're still rockin' the 1"+ chicken strip. Just have fun doing what you're doing and always ride well within your limits.
As for the tires- that's the exact feeling I had with them. Once I started riding a little faster I just didn't know how the hell guys can get that much lean angle at the speed I was seeing and still have grip. Then I got new tires and figured it out.
http://resources.motogp.com/files/images/xy/2010/MotoGP/n510496_dovizioso_1.original.jpg
Chickenstrip removal technique. When carrying tremendous speed and a challenging radius with competitive line you hang off just a little but lean the bike way over at full throttle in proper gear. Do not remove the paint on the rims and finish......preferably on the podium.
Chickenstrip removal technique. When carrying tremendous speed and a challenging radius with competitive line you hang off just a little but lean the bike way over at full throttle in proper gear. Do not remove the paint on the rims and finish......preferably on the podium.
Agree 100% I put about 3 000 miles on my Conti motion AKA cheap tires... The bike handle so much better! My chicken strip are 1/2 from before (about 3/8") Still about 3/8" to go but I'm right at the end of the thread. Love those tires!!! Feel very planted and give you good feedback and I feel very confident with them. I will be buying them from now on! Still look like new in the middle, and no cupping on the front tires like the 021... :thumbup: