what is the best way to make it louder?


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dart1963

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you can't prove they do or do not, unless a study has been done that I'm not aware of... it's all just rider perception at this point... you can't argue that they don't and you can't argue that they do, as this guy admitted when he said "loud pipes save lives" was a myth... well, you can argue, but there isn't a concrete right/wrong from what I can see.
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fwiw, I was complimented the other day on how quiet my bike is... and I have the Marthy Viper with db killer in... so "loud" is relative as well, as it's louder than stock.
 
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latony007

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i think the only time loud pipes could actually help is when lane splitting, there are times i can hear a bike coming splitting lanes. However i dont ever change lanes without looking for bikes/cars so all the pipes really do is annoy me. i could see it helping with idiot drivers though. Since 49 states dont allow lane splitting overall i dont think it helps. But as was stated you could argue it all day but in the end its just opinion.
 
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Chucker

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I can definitively say that riding defensively and anticipating that other drivers will make bonehead moves that could put your life at risk does save lives. I can say that because I have lived it for over 30 years.

I cannot say, nor can anyone else, that loud pipes save lives or that they don't. I can say, however, that I have seen many loud bikes in accidents, and quite probably more loud bikes than quiet bikes. Those accidents were usually due to the rider not paying attention, not anticipating what was going to happen, or just riding like an idiot. I have seen a few where the bike was rear ended while stopped, and I'm pretty sure the pipes played no part in those.

My point is this, don't give a new rider advice like, "Loud pipes save lives, so get loud pipes." That could leave the new rider with the belief that other drivers will always hear him/her and will not pull out in front or cut him/her off. Having this belief could lead to poor defensive driving and a lack of anticipating that cars will pull out or cut off a smaller, less visible vehicle.

Better advice would be, don't ride like an idiot and expect that other drivers are going to drive like idiots. It has worked for me countless times.
 
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MikeH

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Chucker said:
I can definitively say that riding defensively and anticipating that other drivers will make bonehead moves that could put your life at risk does save lives. I can say that because I have lived it for over 30 years.

I cannot say, nor can anyone else, that loud pipes save lives or that they don't. I can say, however, that I have seen many loud bikes in accidents, and quite probably more loud bikes than quiet bikes. Those accidents were usually due to the rider not paying attention, not anticipating what was going to happen, or just riding like an idiot. I have seen a few where the bike was rear ended while stopped, and I'm pretty sure the pipes played no part in those.

My point is this, don't give a new rider advice like, "Loud pipes save lives, so get loud pipes." That could leave the new rider with the belief that other drivers will always hear him/her and will not pull out in front or cut him/her off. Having this belief could lead to poor defensive driving and a lack of anticipating that cars will pull out or cut off a smaller, less visible vehicle.

Better advice would be, don't ride like an idiot and expect that other drivers are going to drive like idiots. It has worked for me countless times.
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I never said that you can ride like an idiot just because you have loud pipes. LOL! You should still ride the same. I also didn't say that that just because you have loud pipes you wont get rear ended while stopped. Again, LOL! Just stating that in my opinion loud pipes get noticed more then the stock one that comes with our bike. Like I said before one more safety feature that could help you prevent an accident. Not saying it will but could. :) Plus it sounds good. :D
 
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buzzbomb

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MikeH said:
Loud pipes save lives. Drop the cash, it's worth it.
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LOL. When I saw this post my first thought was "Here we go again!" I thought of posting that but didn't want to troll.

"Loud pipes save lives." Maybe sometimes. "Highbeams save lives." Also possible. Blowing your horn in a constantly changing, and irritating manner might also work. Flashing your highbeams on and off, constantly tapping your brake.

Trailing a giant flag on a pole with colored lights that strobe on and off, while beeping your horn and tapping your brakes, all accompanied by the sound of a bike without an exhaust...

Yep, you'll likely get noticed. Someone will still pull out in front of you because they are stupid or just don't care.

I personally run my highbeams in the daytime when on my bike. I've noticed a difference by doing so. To say that it's saved my life? I can't.

Some people like loud pipes for the same reason (other than the fact they like the sound, I presume.) Like me running my highbeams in the daytime, no conclusive studies done, but if it makes you feel better, and you don't mind annoying the hell out everybody, then go for it.
 
DiHydro

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MistahT said:
Not for $300+

R6 header might run you $30. Bend the pipe down a little so it clears the oil pan and add muffler. If you're gonna spend that much, might as well get a Marthy kit
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Yes it's more expensive than getting any old R6 header and bending it, but I did get the Marty DIY kit (mind you, the DIY kit is the same price as the MJS header) and it was terrible quality compared to the MJS. Also, like I said, it bolts right up so no modding required, unlike an R6 header or Marthy DIY kit.
 

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