E15 is coming (Ethanol 15%). Need your support to kill it.


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BKP

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Most of you know some of the problems 10% ethanol causes to engines, tanks, and performance. It absorbs more water, causes rust, inhibits combustion, and basically sucks...

The EPA (you know... that agency that sent home 95% of its employees during the shutdown, and no one noticed) wants to allow 15% ethanol, now!!

Most bike manufacturers say that's an absolute no-no in our bikes.
The EPA says both 10% and 15% will be available (however, that's what they said when 10% was introduced, about 0% and 5%).

There's a bi-partisan effort (believe it or not) to kill introduction of 15% ethanol.
It's being introduced as H.R. 1462, the RFS Reform Act of 2013.

Find out, *and make sure* your Representatives are supporting this!!!
 
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latony007

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BKP said:
Most of you know some of the problems 10% ethanol causes to engines, tanks, and performance. It absorbs more water, causes rust, inhibits combustion, and basically sucks...

The EPA (you know... that agency that sent home 95% of its employees during the shutdown, and no one noticed) wants to allow 15% ethanol, now!!

Most bike manufacturers say that's an absolute no-no in our bikes.
The EPA says both 10% and 15% will be available (however, that's what they said when 10% was introduced, about 0% and 5%).

There's a bi-partisan effort (believe it or not) to kill introduction of 15% ethanol.
It's being introduced as H.R. 1462, the RFS Reform Act of 2013.

Find out, *and make sure* your Representatives are supporting this!!!
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Doesn't ethanol actually use as much fossile fuel to create it as you save by not burning gasoline? Solar is the only way to go quit wasting time and start investing in it. The sun puts out more energy in 1 second than has been used by all humankind. Of course you can't put a meter on the sun so i doubt we will see it any time soon.
 
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MNGreg

waiting out winter
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I heard a commercial on the radio here in MN the other day.. TOTAL BS!!! It was touting how it runs cleaner, will be cheaper and makes your vehicle run like it is on premium fuel... MY DONKEY BUTT IT DOES!!!

I will be forwarding the AMA letter I got on this to my reps. But thank GOD my father in law is the head mgr at my local Cenex where I get my 87 Reg for my car and 91 NonOx for the bike and blazer... He assured me that their board of directors have decided they will NOT carry this E15 crap.. Thank god since E10 already cause spark plug, Injector, Fuel pump and other fuel system problems on my blazer... Since I switched to NonOx, never anymore problems and runs better and get 3-4 mpg more. So when consider blazer was about 16-17 and now I get 20-21 mpg it is worth it.
 
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BKP

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latony007 said:
Doesn't ethanol actually use as much fossile fuel to create it as you save by not burning gasoline? Solar is the only way to go quit wasting time and start investing in it. The sun puts out more energy in 1 second than has been used by all humankind. Of course you can't put a meter on the sun so i doubt we will see it any time soon.
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Perhaps... but where would you mount the solar voltaic cells on your bike?
 
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Riccochet

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This country is going to hell. Ethanol is a no-no in every internal combustion engine beside automotive engines. And even they need to be specifically designed for it.

I know a lot of people that tune their drag cars for E85, but only because it's 100 octane and cheaper than race fuel.
 
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dart1963

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sponsored by a VA rep and has four other Va reps as cosponsors... VA is covered.

Sadly, this was introduced into the house in April, not getting much momentum. Last I heard, this was a done deal, E15 is coming... I'm just lucky to have found a couple of stations that offer Ethanol free fuel (even though they only offer it in 87 octane, runs well in all my vehicles).
 
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Marthy

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dart1963 said:
sponsored by a VA rep and has four other Va reps as cosponsors... VA is covered.

Sadly, this was introduced into the house in April, not getting much momentum. Last I heard, this was a done deal, E15 is coming... I'm just lucky to have found a couple of stations that offer Ethanol free fuel (even though they only offer it in 87 octane, runs well in all my vehicles).
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I read in a magazine this month that they put that whole thing on ice for now... Roadrunner magazine.
 
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yellowfz

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On a related note, are there diesel motorcycles? Googling really only gets me the Ducati.
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Go to Youtube, you will see all kinds there, production, DIY builds, Track is the one that caught my eye.
There are some sick looking bikes there. Never mind on the Track seems they are out of business, to bad.

As for the E15 Big Oil is in the fray now and suing the EPA in an attempt to stop its implementation, the EPA is back peddling as of late, I think it will be killed off (E15) hopefully.
 
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roundhouse

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the corn lobby is very powerful. it is a whole lot less about the environment than it is about $$$ in farmers pockets. unfortunately jim bob a local small time farmer does not get much, the lion's share goes big powerful corporate farms, stockholders ect.
 
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lwclancers

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Where?

There is a Liberty (former Chevron) on 7/81 interchange (by 5 guys), about 4 miles from my house that is ethanol free. I rarely go there cause its a few mins out of the way, but will likely go there if E85 does come here.

dart1963 said:
sponsored by a VA rep and has four other Va reps as cosponsors... VA is covered.

Sadly, this was introduced into the house in April, not getting much momentum. Last I heard, this was a done deal, E15 is coming... I'm just lucky to have found a couple of stations that offer Ethanol free fuel (even though they only offer it in 87 octane, runs well in all my vehicles).
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latony007

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BKP said:
Perhaps... but where would you mount the solar voltaic cells on your bike?
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Hey fellow diver, I dove the speigel grove as well. Also the cenotes in cancun and the YO in hawaii. Anyway if they invest in solar technology the cells will be as big as a quarter, or just make the fairings out of solar cells :)
 
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MNGreg

waiting out winter
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dart1963 said:
sponsored by a VA rep and has four other Va reps as cosponsors... VA is covered.

Sadly, this was introduced into the house in April, not getting much momentum. Last I heard, this was a done deal, E15 is coming... I'm just lucky to have found a couple of stations that offer Ethanol free fuel (even though they only offer it in 87 octane, runs well in all my vehicles).
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Thats nice though... They only offer 91 NonOx anywhere near me... There are about 6 stations within an OK radius (2 within 2 miles) that have nonox. It used to only be $0.30 more per gallon. Now the oil companies raised it to $0.60 more per gallon at ALL stations..

Still do it in the bike and the blazer though because I dont want anymore fuel issues in the blazer (being a 2000). I do use regular though in my 2010 Accord because I figure it is 10 years since the "approval" of vehicles for E10... hopefully the fuel systems are good enough to handle it, where I think first model year of E10 approved engines probably really ARENT good at all being all the problems we have had w/ the blazer and fuel issues.

What is the cost difference for you at 87 regular vs 87 NonOx?
 
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ylwf3vr

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I may have missed it.. but what does the Ethanol do to the bikes?
 

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latony007

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ylwf3vr said:
I may have missed it.. but what does the Ethanol do to the bikes?
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well greg said..
Thank god since E10 already cause spark plug, Injector, Fuel pump and other fuel system problems on my blazer... Since I switched to NonOx, never anymore problems and runs better and get 3-4 mpg more. So when consider blazer was about 16-17 and now I get 20-21 mpg it is worth it.

I don't even know if we have ethanol around here. I don't pay a ton of attention at the pump just reach for the 91 (when im on my bike anyway)
 
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