Downshifting..
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Good job Anthony!
I can't vote I don't actually own a bike I just linger here and bother others lol
O man sorry I forgot who I was for a min rofl
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Downshift - YouTube
Downshift - YouTube
FastFreddy
New Member
The distinct actions overlap, but the brain gets used to it.
The main point is getting the target revs on song, and making everything else happen around that in one action.
I find its more about eliminating the mistakes than having a perfect sequence.
If I miss a downshift, sometimes I have to let the clutch out slowly as well.
Explaining it in words is way cruder than they way the brain works when downshifting.
If its smooth, and you aren't overrevving or underrevving, its just getting the timing right from there.
Attempted explanation :
Clutch starts to pull, throttle starts to blip, as the clutch opens you blip and micro-think about the target revs of the blip and clicking down and letting the clutch back open at the same time you hit the target revs for the downshift.
I'm not sure why there isn't a decent video of the MV F4 autoblipper going down at least 3 gears under full brakes on youtube. I would think that would be interesting to a few people ?
The main point is getting the target revs on song, and making everything else happen around that in one action.
I find its more about eliminating the mistakes than having a perfect sequence.
If I miss a downshift, sometimes I have to let the clutch out slowly as well.
Explaining it in words is way cruder than they way the brain works when downshifting.
If its smooth, and you aren't overrevving or underrevving, its just getting the timing right from there.
Attempted explanation :
Clutch starts to pull, throttle starts to blip, as the clutch opens you blip and micro-think about the target revs of the blip and clicking down and letting the clutch back open at the same time you hit the target revs for the downshift.
I'm not sure why there isn't a decent video of the MV F4 autoblipper going down at least 3 gears under full brakes on youtube. I would think that would be interesting to a few people ?
FastFreddy
New Member
Basically,
- don't over blip
- don't under blip
- keep front brake pressure steady or progressive throughout
- listen for the sound of the perfect revs and timing and keep mentally adjusting from what you hear
- after doing it always for a week, it'll be automatic pilot.
- don't over blip
- don't under blip
- keep front brake pressure steady or progressive throughout
- listen for the sound of the perfect revs and timing and keep mentally adjusting from what you hear
- after doing it always for a week, it'll be automatic pilot.
honestly, under most situations, I just clutch and downshift... say, for a stop or slowing down, even most of my "spirited" rides.... I'm usually not braking so hard that the next downshift is so far off that the back tire will chirp....
I've tried the blip thing, but unless you are just pushing hard through the turns and need max speed, it's really not needed for day-day riding. Our bike is very forgiving up to 6-7krpm. I guess once you get used to it, it just happens, but I've never really needed it.
I've tried the blip thing, but unless you are just pushing hard through the turns and need max speed, it's really not needed for day-day riding. Our bike is very forgiving up to 6-7krpm. I guess once you get used to it, it just happens, but I've never really needed it.
I hardly if ever blip I just ease out the clutch after braking if there was a bik delta in speed but in general I just downshift let engine do the braking. but this bike is very nimble as johnker pointed out the gear ratios on this bike are alsmost idot prof (almost lol) anyways in general a lot of otherbikes require the blip or rev matching otherwise rear tire will lock up for sure.
either way whatever your form is ride safe :Sport:
either way whatever your form is ride safe :Sport:
Boy, being asked this it is hard to remember exactly, it is all just muscle memory now for me I think. Not having ridden lately I think I clutch, shift-blip at same time and slowly release the clutch. Gotten very smooth at it. The only time I clink or anything is going from 1st to 2nd. But I think that is normal from what I read on here in other threads. Kinda believe that might also be normal because we are jumping over neutral?
SurfJunkie
New Member
Other.
Hold the throttle open a bit and just down shift while holding it open that same amount. Usually pretty smooth. 5-10% is all it takes.
1. Roll off the throttle, hold that 5-10%
2. clutch in and down shift quickly, clutch out while holding that same power.
3. if you hit the meat/revs right, it will be a smooth transition.
kind of a blip without a blip.
Hold the throttle open a bit and just down shift while holding it open that same amount. Usually pretty smooth. 5-10% is all it takes.
1. Roll off the throttle, hold that 5-10%
2. clutch in and down shift quickly, clutch out while holding that same power.
3. if you hit the meat/revs right, it will be a smooth transition.
kind of a blip without a blip.
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Deathdiesel
New Member
Clutch blip shift for downshifting to speed up. If coming to a halt or stop, clutch shift, let off clutch.
Went for my first ride last week. Hit 600 miles today - all canyon carving (Mulholland and Angeles Crest).
Practice practice practice.
Now I can rev match downshift just about every time.
Here's how I learned: best two video's I've seen on the 'net thus far.
(First video = aural goodness!)
(Second video - actual explanation.)
Hope they help, and good luck!
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCd0bwqfEUo]ZX10r sportbike fast downshifting w throttle blip / rev-match Part1 - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_cPblE6my4]How To Downshift While Rev Matching - YouTube[/ame]
Practice practice practice.
Now I can rev match downshift just about every time.
Here's how I learned: best two video's I've seen on the 'net thus far.
(First video = aural goodness!)
(Second video - actual explanation.)
Hope they help, and good luck!
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCd0bwqfEUo]ZX10r sportbike fast downshifting w throttle blip / rev-match Part1 - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_cPblE6my4]How To Downshift While Rev Matching - YouTube[/ame]
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yellowfz
Blip-downshift 95% of the time very rarely clutch downshift.
If I do a fast run I will 11.5 no let off of throttle and do fast clutch up-shift, normal riding slight let off and up-shift no clutch, downshift, blip no clutch downshift.
Will do a one handed sharp turn wave when another rider is at stop light and turning into a lane from a light, so you have to shift without clutch.
If I do a fast run I will 11.5 no let off of throttle and do fast clutch up-shift, normal riding slight let off and up-shift no clutch, downshift, blip no clutch downshift.
Will do a one handed sharp turn wave when another rider is at stop light and turning into a lane from a light, so you have to shift without clutch.