new guy, thinking of buying a fz6r, got ?'s

[gonnacrash]

Okay, first been riding for years, currently a ninja 500.

I love the looks of the 6r, but I have a few simple questions.

What does swapping in r6 cams really do, more power, move the power band up?

I do understand the purposes of opening up the exhaust, ie power and volume but I don't want a loud bike, more noise is fine but not loud. Which way to go on the exhaust? I know it may take Mccarthy and his brain to run perfect.

I weigh around 200 lbs naked, how is suspension for my weight?

Figure an exhaust, Mccarthy map on a controller, and r6 cams what kind of power would I be looking at?

 

[houte]

hello

hello man ,
what can i say about this bike its yes you will have a better force because its a 600 but the real force of the bike its higher ( what i think everyone can say different things)

for the noise seriously after 5000 on your rpm a good noise get out of the bike but not too much

easy to control but for more control i switch for 1.5 riser clip on seriously lowering the front give you a better ( and i say seriously that's suprise me too) control on low speed and high speed and in the curve

for the next its a great bike and don't be afraid to go on this bike very fun !

houte

 

[houte]

ohh sorry

ohh sorry i can't help you for the pipe and r6 cam im living in quebec -_- and the police chase us like we chase animal soooo.... you can't modify the pipe

hahaha f..... quebec

 

[xorbe]

If you want r6 power it's better to buy an r6, instead of trying to boost up the 6r.

 

[Scott_Thomas]

Okay, first been riding for years, currently a ninja 500.

I love the looks of the 6r, but I have a few simple questions.

What does swapping in r6 cams really do, more power, move the power band up?

I do understand the purposes of opening up the exhaust, ie power and volume but I don't want a loud bike, more noise is fine but not loud. Which way to go on the exhaust? I know it may take Mccarthy and his brain to run perfect.

I weigh around 200 lbs naked, how is suspension for my weight?

Figure an exhaust, Mccarthy map on a controller, and r6 cams what kind of power would I be looking at?

Think you mean Marthy exhaust and map. The R6 cams cannot be used on stock R6. Not enough valve clearance. I think you are referring to the FZ6 cams, which is what I have as do only a few others. An exhaust, PC5 (with a good map aka Marthy), and FZ6 cam mod (plus throw in a full airbox mod - Vstacks and cut out bottom of air intake side) will put the RWHP around 80 or better. Someone here just dyno tuned with that setup and ran almost 84 RWHP. Considering stock is around 67, that's a significant jump especially since you are lightening the bike through mods as well increasing HP/Weight ratio.

 

[arocholl]

If your looking for more power I almost think you'd be better served by a super sport like a GSXR, CBR600RR or an R6 instead of trying to chase HP numbers with the 6R.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 6R but it wasn't designed to be a massively powerful machine. It was designed for a good usable powerband.


-Uncle Al

 

[brownwa]

If your looking for more power I almost think you'd be better served by a super sport like a GSXR, CBR600RR or an R6 instead of trying to chase HP numbers with the 6R.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 6R but it wasn't designed to be a massively powerful machine. It was designed for a good usable powerband.


-Uncle Al

I was going to say the exact same thing. GSX-R600 will get you +120hp out of the box for less than a FZ6R with serious mods. Also the gixxer is relatively comfortable for a sport bike. If you have to you could put raised clip-on bars on it and a bigger windscreen to make it highway friendly.

Disclaimer: I love my fizzer and use it for everything from going across town to track days. Its strengths are its versatility and comfort. Its kryptonite is its "low" horsepower. But truth be told I never find the power lacking except for the straightaways at the track. In absolutely every other scenario the bike has plenty of power.

 

[Scott_Thomas]

If your looking for more power I almost think you'd be better served by a super sport like a GSXR, CBR600RR or an R6 instead of trying to chase HP numbers with the 6R.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 6R but it wasn't designed to be a massively powerful machine. It was designed for a good usable powerband.


-Uncle Al

Doesn't cost much to upgrade power from 67 to 80 + at the wheel. I personally don't want a SS, because of the extreme lean angles and not much usable mid range. You can pick up a pc5 used cheap or find on sale, mod your own exhaust or r6 header mod, fz6 cams can be found cheap. Airbox mod is free. I've ridden r6's and buddies r1 and I prefer my modded 6r any day over either. Yeah, they may have more top end power and speed, but ergonomics and low usable power don't make them good Street bikes (this is my opinion). I paid less then $1000 for all my performance mods and did 100% of the work. If the sole purpose is to make it a SS then I'd agree with you, but if you like modding and want to make your bike your own then mod away. Only SS IMO with decent ergonomics is the gixxer. 750 actually has decent midrange and only like 5 lbs or so heavier then the 600.

 

[xorbe]

I've ridden r6's and buddies r1 and I prefer my modded 6r any day over either.

But perhaps right now you'd prefer the r6 or r1 that actually runs ...

 

[Scott_Thomas]

But perhaps right now you'd prefer the r6 or r1 that actually runs ...

My bike will run again soon. Waiting on some stuff to be delivered (new gaskets, jb weld, and a few other odds and ends). Could've picked most up locally, but since I had to order the gaskets and wait for them I figured I'd use amazon on the cheap. Unless there is catastrophic damage I haven't seen it won't be an issue. Bike is already apart, just need to pull cams and job weld the cylinder head near cam timing chain. Next bike will not be a 600, ninja 1000 or fz1, with fairings of course.

 

[chopper71]

(plus throw in a full airbox mod - Vstacks and cut out bottom of air intake side)

Hey Scott when you say full air box mod what do you mean? I still have the stock filter right now. I did drill holes in the bottom of the air box. I also plugged the one nipple closed that is outside of the box on the brake side of the bike. Is there more to the full air box mod that you mentioned? Oh yeah I haven't replaced the V stacks yet but going to get some Graves.

 

[gonnacrash]

I don't want a gixxer or an r6. I want sport touring, with use able power bands, not screaming rpms to have power. I am also 43 yo, and I don't bend over as well as I used to.

Honestly my 500 does all I need but it looks old, yes a 6r would be a vanity purchase. A little more power would be nice, and sure a 20 hp bump would be great, but 25 to 30 would be better.

My 500 has 6500 miles, so I don't need a new bike, just a newer looking one.

 

[Scott_Thomas]

Hey Scott when you say full air box mod what do you mean? I still have the stock filter right now. I did drill holes in the bottom of the air box. I also plugged the one nipple closed that is outside of the box on the brake side of the bike. Is there more to the full air box mod that you mentioned? Oh yeah I haven't replaced the V stacks yet but going to get some Graves.

I cut the whole bottom out and replaced longer vstacks with shorter ones I got from donor Airbox I bought cheap on eBay.

 

[buzzbomb]

But perhaps right now you'd prefer the r6 or r1 that actually runs ...

Dude, that was a low blow. Not that others weren't thinking it, we just weren't saying it out of respect for the people who spend the money, take the chances and do the work to mod their bikes to make them more than they were designed to be. Just sayin.'

 

[ch33zecake]

To be honest, I would just get a full exhaust, new air filter, and a fuel controller. Then get a fuel map from Marthy and go from there. If that's not enough power for you then buy an FZ1 and put fairings on it.